Straight up, Catholics why do you skip the commandment in Exodus 20:4-5 and split the 10th?

Question

Just be honest please.

Answer 1

Pope said to

Answer 2

Part b of the 1st Commandment is in both Catholic( Latin and Greek) listings. The one that that non Lutheran Protestants use exclusively is a Greek Catholic/Orthodox listing

because coveting your neighbor's wife is very different from coveting your neighbors goods and more different than worshiping and serving anything as an idol in place of God which is what "No other gods" and "No Idols" is all about.

Have you read Exodus 25:18-19 yet?

Answer 3

1. We Lutherans stand with our Catholic brothers and sisters in *not* skipping the commandment against graven images. It is combined with the commandment against false gods, because the two issues are inherently linked.

2. The commandment against graven images applied to the true God prior to the Incarnation because at that time, God had no body. Therefore, any graven image was a lie. Since God is now incarnate, the graven image rule has a different application.

3. A man's wife is not his property. Combining the two commandments against covetousness is demeaning to women.

Answer 4

I guess you can debate over the wording. "You shall not carve idols for yourselves in the shape of anything in the sky above or on the earth below or in the waters beneath the earth;" Although people may carve objects they do not necessarily treat them as idols (it is up for debate whether the practices of Catholics include this).

Exodus 5 "you shall not bow down before them or worship them. For I, the LORD, your God, am a jealous God, inflicting punishment for their fathers' wickedness on the children of those who hate me, down to the third and fourth generation;" is often included with 4 as I seeing as they bear a similar message and one seems to continue from the other.

Also, it is included in the ten commandments "Thou shalt not make for thyself an idol". Perhaps you believe that the Catholic use of the cross is an idol and, although this may be the case with a small number of people, I think it is mostly used as symbolism.

As for Exodus 20:17, I am not sure why it is split into two, although this is common practice in Catholicism. "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male or female slave, nor his ox or *** (meaning donkey!) , nor anything else that belongs to him." I guess it was done so so as to place more emphasis or the fact that you were not to want either objects or people that 'belonged' to another. It also seems that in many cases the two exist merely as "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house" and "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife" thus skipping any of his other belongings (this is not the case in some Lutheran or Reformed Churches).

Because, in Exodus, the commandments are not clearly split, different groups have interpreted them in their own manner.

I'm not quite sure of your reason for asking this question but I hope the answer was helpful. If you are pro-bible why complain that others do not follow it? There are many conflicting things in the bible, making it physically impossible to follow them all. Perhaps you mean to point it out to those that say they follow the bible completely.

Edit: I see, you must mean that continuing disagreement about whether or not Catholics 'pray' to Mary and the saints. The reply I have heard is mostly that they are praying through them rather than to them although the wording of the Hail Mary seems to go against that. Good luck with finding out.

Answer 5

We don't SKIP it. We have it as part of our 1st commandment, because the whole "Have no other god" and "don't worship idols" run to the same theme: Only one God, worship Him and nobody else.

Your version of the 10th commandment combines coveting your neighbor's wife and coveting your neighbor's goods into one rule. Don't you see that lust and greed are two very different kinds of sin? It makes sense to divide them.

Anyway, the 10 Commandments are NOT NUMBERED in the Bible. That means you can number them any way you like and it's not wrong, because the Bible doesn't prescribe any particularly numbering system.

Answer 6

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...lol

Why do you ignore the explicit instructions of Exodus 20:8-11? You know...the one that starts with the word "Remember".

Answer 7

I will be honest and copy for you what is in teh cathechism of the catholic Church regarding the 10 commandments:

THE FIRST COMMANDMENT
I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c1a1.htm

THE SECOND COMMANDMENT
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c1a2.htm

THE THIRD COMMANDMENT
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work; but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c1a3.htm

THE FOURTH COMMANDMENT
Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the Lord your God gives you
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a4.htm

THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not kill.
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a5.htm

THE SIXTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not commit adultery
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a6.htm

THE SEVENTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not steal.
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a7.htm

THE EIGHTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a8.htm

THE NINTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his ***, or anything that is your neighbor's.
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a9.htm

THE TENTH COMMANDMENT
You shall not covet . . . anything that is your neighbor's. . . . You shall not desire your neighbor's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or his ***, or anything that is your neighbor's.
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a0.htm

Exodus 20: 4-5 is NOT skipped. Will you be honest enough to delete your question or to admit that your question is in error?

Answer 8

Dan 9:25 that's way

Answer 9

The real question is why do the protestants do it. You know the Bible came from the Catholic Church don't you. And it isn't for your information. So sorry you have such a small education in theology you cant recognize it.

Answer 10

I would say that they think of the saints in reverence but not from a place of worship or idolatry. It's not up to us to guess intent or devotion tho... They know what the word of God says and we will all eventually be held accountable, so why nitpick amongst brothers in the same faith?

Answer 11

I feel sorry for you,

Catholics are not your enemy, and Protestants are not the enemy of Catholics.

We share Sacramental Baptism, and all believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ. We are not at odds, even though some will try to divide us.