Hebrews 12:1-18
God Disciplines His Sons
1Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us. 2Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3Consider him who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.
4In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. 5And you have forgotten that word of encouragement that addresses you as sons:
“My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline,
and do not lose heart when he rebukes you,
6because the Lord disciplines those he loves,
and he punishes everyone he accepts as a son.”[a]
2007-11-29
01:41:48
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It's mostly filler because the writer wasn't sure if he had enough words for the book to be taken seriously among other books on mythology. Apparently, he's telling people that Jesus beats his kids at the end.
2007-11-29 01:46:34
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answered by clint 5
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Are you like Jesus willing to give your life for your friends? Are you willing to take a beating and scourging when you have done nothing wrong?
If your parents (namely your father) would discipline you for doing something you knew not to do, do you now understand why they did it? They did not want you to get hurt or injured. If you have children, do you let them play with fire or run the house with knives? Of course not. The love you have for your own children, which will never go away or fade, is the same love God has for us. He may not like the choices and decisions we make but He loves us and will teach us and correct us through discipline.
Do you want to live in Heaven and be with Jesus forever? Then stop putting on a show and acting like a Christian. Don't shout AMEN about the sins of drinking and then go get drunk. There are a multitude of people that are watching your walk and will judge Christians because of you. If you say something, mean it. Stop playing and start doing.
But that is just a quick explanation. Greater detail would require tithes and offerings. LOL. I would and could continue but for now, just meditate on that.
2007-11-29 02:00:45
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answered by Anonymous
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This is saying that you have to overlook all that is around in the world and concentrate upon the real goal, honoring God. We shouldn't get upset when things get rough for us because we don't need to worry about shedding our blood as Jesus did for us. It has already been taken care of. However, when we find ourselves being disciplined in the midst of doing what we know is wrong, to be glad. It is because He loves us and we are considered as sons and daughters to Him, so therefore He sets us straight whenever we are doing wrong. Just as an earthly father would punish his child if his child was doing the wrong thing. He does it out of love and wants us to understand where we went wrong. We can't do that without having a learning experience. His acceptance for us as His children is easy to achieve. First you must believe in Jesus who died for all of our sins, and then you pray and ask Jesus to come into your life and rule your heart so that you may know right from wrong and spend eternity with God in Heaven. The simplicity comes from believing this and accepting this. That's all there is to it. Email me if you want to learn more about accepting Jesus. I'd be glad to help.
2007-11-29 01:57:20
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answered by froggsfriend 5
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I think this is a comment on mortification - living as a new creation means subverting our own selfish desires and impulses sometimes for the good of others as we do God's will rather than our own. Sacrificing what ME wants can hurt. It is in accepting and learning to deal with that pain by which we are cleansed and brought into eternal life this side of death (see Luke 10:25-37).
2007-11-29 02:01:08
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answered by ledbetter 4
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I am not sure which version of the Bible you are quoting Scripture, but the KJV is worded different. So I will try to explain what the Scripture means in the KJV.
Example: When we have children, we want our Children to grow up to responsible mature adults and to walk in the way of our Lord. So when ever our Children mess up, we have to correct them in order to teach them. This correction of which ever type we use, weather its by timeout, taking possessions away temporary, not allowing things they enjoy, which ever way, we do it out of Love and Love only. They have to be taught that for every wrong their is a consequence that has to be paid.
God is our Heavenly Father and every time we mess up their is a consequence for us also. God chastises us just as we would our Child. Not to be mean, but out of our Love for us as a Child of God.
Like a child determined to do something, and we know the results and we tell them, but they just insist on doing it anyways then they find out we were right and find out the consequences of that bad choice they made. And we just like Children sometimes think we know best, then later realize that Gods way was the right way, not ours.
2007-11-29 02:11:20
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answered by sparkplug 4
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I can explain it from personal experience. I love God and He loves me.
I was going to do something that deep down I knew I should not do.
I prayed about it and I got the fastest answer to my prayer ever. I know what it feels like to be rebuked by God. It's really terrible.
I deserved it and I will always stay away from anything to do with spirits, sorcerers, witches, diviners, etc.
2007-11-29 01:54:48
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answered by Ruth 7
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this is a message of love for those who are weary. rmb how u get wacked when u messed something up or being naughty when u were a kid by ur parents?
after adam sinned, we all all fallen short of the glory of God. and sadly God punished adam, adam no longer has authority over all the mammals on land, sky and sea and his decedents will carry his sin even b4 birth.
but God love us so much, He sent Jesus to restore our relationship through Jesus. When Jesus was betrayed, He suffered a great deal of pain with no complains.
when ure dishearten and feels that God is not with you, your wrong. God is ALWAYS there for u. He is not our earthly parents that turn us into brats with rewards. neither does He reward if it wasnt a great deal to you. when u press on, and if u really want something... but losing faith cos u think God is not with you, think agn and ask urself if u really want it or u really need it.
durin low times, its a "training session" with God. He is preparin you for His great battle with the devil. He wants u to be like Jesus. God is a father that will not spare His rod cos it hurts Him to see u spoilt.
naggy, i knw. but tt's the simplest way i could think of to explain biblical terms on the world wide web. :)
hope tt helps. i wun say bless you, cos ure already bless by He who sits on the throne. :)
2007-11-29 02:09:12
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answered by mademoislle 1
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God had a plan for his son to fulfill a purpose. Jesus followed that will and plan with much perserverance and faith. His path and journey involved much suffering and discipline. He was the pioneer of a path through life that leads on to eternal life. Let us who are given the call also accept our personal journey of suffering and discipline to reach the same goal. It is all for an ultimate good.
2007-11-29 01:48:22
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answered by Anonymous
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These verses are speaking of Jesus Christ, the author and finisher of our faith. He, who came down from his throne in glory to suffer for our sins so that we would not have to suffer the penalty of death for ourselves. It tells us we are a part of the elect because He would not chastise children that were not his own. When we sin as children of God, the Holy Spirit convicts us in our hearts to repent from the sin, and when we stubbornly refuse to do so, God himself will take us to the proverbial woodshed and discipline us.
2007-11-29 01:58:58
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answered by survivansustah 3
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The gist of this passage is to look upon discipline as a form of love, not punishment. It is a means of purification of our minds and heart for the joy of the world to come.
2007-11-29 01:46:51
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answered by WC 7
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It is really a shocking passage, isn't it, especially if taken literally. Sounds more like the angry, vengeful God of the Old Testament than the mentality of Jesus, who readily forgave sinners and preached love and tolerance.
2007-11-29 01:56:50
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answered by RE 7
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