Is creation science condemned by the bible?

Question

Eph. 5:4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.

isn't this passage just attacking creation science with it's "foolish talk", and shouldn't these people be thanking the real scientists who are making progress every day?

by the way, this is my new favorite passage...

now when religious people start talking foolishly i can show them their own book...

"being mean" is mentioned in the bible?

WHAT?!?!?!

OMG!!!

wait, i don't care, it's not MY book, it's YOURS...

Answer 1

One of the Commandments forbids "bearing false witness" against someone. Creationism in all its guises is at its foundation all about lying about scientists, so yes, creationism is condemned in the Bible. It's morally wrong - according to the Bible - to be a creationist.

Answer 2

A) Since the Bible's whole focus has NOTHING to do with the physical sciences, it certainly doesn't bother to condemn either science OR scientists.

B) The passage you have chosen has nothing to do with condemning scientists, but with those who gossip maliciously, who bear false witness or who waste their time putting others down so that they may feel better about themselves. Please do not make the fundie mistake of taking a short passage out of context. That's deliberate ignorance on your part (at least, I HOPE it's deliberate!).

C) Some "real" scientists are indeed doing their part to improve the quality of life for all of us. Some equally "real" scientists are, however, far more concerned with their next grant to be bothered doing any groundbreaking work for the rest of us. Get it right. Being a scientist is NOT a guarantee of being decent, caring OR of being neither. Just like the rest of us, there's good guys and bad guys. Neither tar them all nor canonize them all. One size does NOT fit all!

Answer 3

William writes:

"No. You are mistaken. Creation science is legitimate work done by well-meaning people, even if YOU do not believe in the work that they do. It is not perfect, just like the rest of science is not perfect. And it is neither foolish talk, nor is it condemned by the Bible".

In light of the facts that creation science is not legitimate, nor is it done by well-meaning people, nor is it science, and it IS foolish talk, the only thing you're really accomplishing by your post is demonstrating that you're not honest. Why in the world would you come here and go through the effort of posting just to demonstrate that you can lie shamelessly? You're behaving irrationally.

Answer 4

And your question magically evades the definition of "foolish talk" because...?

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Is it just me or is that Lion guy just the biggest hypocrite?
"By-The- Way..You have the wrong Context on that..Leave Bible study to those who know the Bible and study it from a Christian perspective."
If one leaves Bible study to those who know the Bible then:
a) You've reverted back to pre Martin Luther catholicism
b) Nobody can study the bible because nobody "knows" the bible before they begin to study it.
c) Jews can't study the Old Testament

Answer 5

True, then there are the passages about telling the truth and speaking falsely. Not saying that creationism is a total lie, but the amount of times scientists are misquoted and plain concepts are complete misconstrued, makes one question whether it is intentional or not.

Answer 6

No. You are mistaken. Creation science is legitimate work done by well-meaning people, even if YOU do not believe in the work that they do. It is not perfect, just like the rest of science is not perfect. And it is neither foolish talk, nor is it condemned by the Bible.

However, God does condemn being mean to your neighbor. Is that what you are doing with your question?

Answer 7

Religion has and will always try to hinder any and all forms of progress with science. Because religion fears science due to the positive influence of science.

Answer 8

Given the vast majority of the arguments put forward by creation scientists, I'd say it's covered by "thou shalt not bear false witness".

Answer 9

By-The- Way..You have the wrong Context on that..Leave Bible study to those who know the Bible and study it from a Christian perspective.
The Correct Contect is:

A contrast to walking in love: conduct not fitting for the Christian.

But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.

a. Let it not even be named among you: Paul groups together these ideas of sexual sin and impropriety, indicating that none of these are fitting for saints and should not even be named among God’s people.

i. Paul uses a comprehensive list of sexual sins:

Fornication (porneia), a broad word describing sexual sin
Uncleanness, another broad word for “dirty” moral behavior, especially in a sexual sense
Filthiness, which has much the same as uncleanness
Coarse jesting, which has the idea of inappropriate, “dirty” sexual humor
ii. We must notice the theme of the moral appeal. It isn’t “avoid these things so that you can be a saint.” Rather, it is “you are a saint; now live in a manner fitting for a saint.” The constant moral appeal of the New Testament is simply this: be who you are in Jesus.

b. As is fitting for saints: This emphasis on sexual sin was appropriate. The culture of Paul’s day (and in the city of Ephesus especially) was given over to sexual immorality. The sort of behavior Paul says is not fitting for saints was pretty much completely approved by the culture. It’s just the same way today.

c. Covetousness . . . foolish talking: Paul also included covetousness and foolish talking in this list because of their close association with sexual sin. The desire to have something that doesn’t belong to us and foolish speaking have led many people into sexual sin. But covetousness and foolish talking also have relevance beyond their relation to sexual sin.

i. Foolish talking is literally “an easy turn of speech.” In the context, the idea is of the one who can turn every conversation into a joking comment on sexual matters, usually with a double-entendre.

d. But rather giving of thanks: Positively, the Christian is to give thanks for sex. We receive it thankfully as a gift, and we enjoy sex in a way that glorifies the Giver.

i. God’s purpose in giving sex is not primarily for the gratification of the individual, but for the bonding together of husband and wife in a one-flesh relationship. Certain expressions of sexuality are sin not because God wants to deprive some aspect of enjoyment, but because they work against His primary purpose for sex.

You cannot understand the things that are of the Spirit of God for it is foolishness to YOU nor can you understand them for you are spiritually discerened (1st Cor. 2:14)

Answer 10

Creation isn't science! Stop putting those two words together.