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If there is no God or higher power and never was, how did all the matter in the universe come to be? Spontaneous generation has been proven to be false. I can see how the big bang theory would make sense, but where did all this matter randomly come from?

2007-11-14 14:57:39 · 24 answers · asked by sonofEatonWrite 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Simple. The fact is that the matter didn't "randomly" come from anywhere. There was a universe before this, and one before that, and eventually, one before that in the long line of histories will be the one after this one, closing the loop.

You know, it doesn't really matter what we say, you won't believe us anyway. That's why you're christians and we aren't.

By the way, it's not just Atheists that don't believe in your god. It's agnostics, buddhists, pagans, wiccans, etc...

2007-11-14 15:04:07 · answer #1 · answered by Phoenix_Slasher 4 · 3 1

Okay, first off, spontaneous generation was a theory about how organisms came to be, ambiogenesis, which was proven wrong, but has very little to do with the matter in question. In reality matter-antimatter pairs are constantly springing into existence and annihilating each other, so matter is constantly coming into existence, albeit balanced by antimatter. So no real change would be necessary for matter to abruptly appear other than a shift in this balance, or a segregation of the created parts (matter and antimatter appearing in ways that are unlikely to annihilate each other.)

All of the above said, while I obviously don't think it completely impossible for matter to come into being, neither I, nor the majority of atheists think it did. For the most part we believe that the constituent parts of the universe always have been, though they may have existed in radically different states than they do now. This, for us, is easier than believing a sentient being has always been, and the term that "creation" requires time to have any meaning. If one supposes that time existed forever into the past, then it seems fairly trivial to assume that the 8-10 or so other dimensions of space-time existed as well.

...As for the details of how we believe it existed infinitely into the past, the depends on the individual, according mainly to taste... Some stick to the simple belief that there is a big crunch big bang cycle, while the bandwagon-jumpers amongst us (myself included) tend to think that we exist in a space of time between brane collisions, and whenever the next collisions comes, our universe, and the other universe, will be effectively reset (though their fundamental laws aren't likely to be unchanged)

2007-11-14 23:23:41 · answer #2 · answered by ‫‬‭‮‪‫‬‭‮yelxeH 5 · 1 0

"Atheists, help me out?"

Ok.But I don't know if you're going to get the same exact answer since we don't all think alike or base everything we know on a belief and use a single book to back up that belief.We are a brethren of many ideas.The only thing that connects us is our mutual lack of belief in a deity.

"If there is no God or higher power and never was, how did all the matter in the universe come to be?"

Who says it came to be one day?Perhaps, as you might believe there has always been a "God" is the same answer to the question of matter.Perhaps matter has always been.Just in a different form beyond our current level of understanding in science.That is not to say it has or had intelligence.Just that it has always existed in one form or another.


"Spontaneous generation has been proven to be false."

Straw man arguments don't work and I really wish people would stop using them.Look up "straw man argument" and when you read the definition you will see this question is one.Also, if something has been proved false, it helps to site sources.

"I can see how the big bang theory would make sense, but where did all this matter randomly come from?"

The theories differ from person to person and from scientist to scientist as to how matter has existed and converted from and before the big bang.I suggest that you do a lot more studying before you simply ask a question.You will find that there is a lot of information out there.I am just not going to do the studying for you.You could remain ignorant to knowledge and simply say "God did it" or you could actually learn something.

2007-11-14 23:10:19 · answer #3 · answered by Demopublican 6 · 1 1

Spontaneous generation is the theory that complex lifeforms are spontaneously generated form non-living matter (i.e. flies from rotting meat). Do not confuse that with abiogenesis.

As for how all matter in the universe came to be, I refer you to the Law of Conservation of Mass-Energy; which states: mass-energy cannot be created nor destroied. In all of science, there is no legitimate theory, experimental evidence, or even imagined circumstance this law could ever be broken. It is a logical assumption that the mass-energy that comprises the universe always existed in one form or another. This conclusion fits just fine into big bang cosmology.

Keep in mind, in order to ask the question "where did it all come from" you have to make a leap in logic to assume that there was nothing to begin with or that it is likely that there was nothing to begin with; there is no evidence to suggest this is the case. On the contrary, in the non-boundary scenario for the natural origin of the universe, the probability of there being something rather than nothing can be calculated. It is above 60%[1].

Moreover, if you wish to assume mass-energy must 'have a cause' anyway and choose to attribute that cause to something such as God, what /caused/ God? If God does not need a cause, why not invoke Occam's Razor--save a step--and say mass-energy does not require a cause?

2007-11-14 23:09:52 · answer #4 · answered by Dashes 6 · 1 1

Neither matter nor energy can be destroyed, only conserved, therefore the matter in the universe has always existed.

A more troubling issue would be - if real, where did you god come from?

It's a lot easier (and simpler) to assume the universe has always existed then to claim some immortal, incomprehensible, unprovable super being made it for unexplainable reasons.

2007-11-14 23:47:25 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

You have trouble believing that matter could erupt from a singularity--matter from the vacuum. But no trouble at all believing in a highly organized information processing--interacting galactic architect that existed out of nothing before the nothing. You simply add a layer of the same question by attesting it was god. It;s the same question as where did God come from.

2007-11-14 23:06:12 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

There is no more evidence for the Big Bang theory than there is for God. Abiogenesis has never been recorded and the fossil record still screams for more links between major life form families. It is all just another hypothesis.
Sure planets and stars in each pocket seem to be moving outwards, but this does not prove the idea, nor disprove creation.

2007-11-14 23:06:59 · answer #7 · answered by AEH101 3 · 0 2

If God could've existed since forever, why can't matter? Just that before the Big Bang (which, contrary to what creationists think, is NOT nothing exploding into something - it's the rapid expansion of space-time), all matter was condensed in an infinitely small point.

2007-11-14 23:02:07 · answer #8 · answered by =_= 5 · 4 1

If the matter on the universe can't be created or destroyed them nothing is new. Is like a never ending circle. The end of a universe if the start of a new one.
Why not?

2007-11-14 23:05:05 · answer #9 · answered by Lost. at. Sea. 7 · 1 0

What is more likely? The universe has always exsisted, or a giant space monster had some free time and decided to make a universe for a bunch of hairless apes.

2007-11-14 23:02:22 · answer #10 · answered by Paul B 4 · 2 1

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