Please give me an honest answer to this?

Question

Is it moral for a man to drug two women or get them heavily drunk so that he can exploit them for his sexual fancies? I think what he did was wrong, but some people think i am saying it because I am jealous of them. See here, I am not saying that having one-night stands are wrong, but exploiting women on purpose by getting them drunk or drugged just to get them in bed is wrong because it is not 100% consensual - then why do the majority of people not agree with me? Please give me a logical answer whether what that man did was wrong or not.

P.S. I am not bringing god or religion into this question, just so that I could stand on a common ground with everyone here

Answer 1

Exploiting women by drugs or alcohol is just as immoral as one night stands. Neither one respects the dignity of the individual, who is a child of God.

Answer 2

What do these people think you are jealous of - that you want to be drugged and forced to do something against your will. This is without doubt rape. No means no. What if they were in a similar position - drugged, filmed and then this is put over the Internet - would they still think this was OK?
I saw a true story on Lifetime (ok chick channel) with exactly this same situation, where a lady meets a guy at a bar, she likes him, unfortunately he drugs her and they end up at his house. Next morning he tells her that nothing happened, they start to live together until she finds a video tape of what had actually happened that night. He had drugged her video taped her, she also discovered tapes of other women. She takes this to the police, long story short - they get the other women to testify and land this guy in jail. He was a son of a famous fashion designer.
If you deliberately get someone drunk-drugged because it is pre-planned, take the choice out of the persons hand, is definitely rape.

Answer 3

Yes I think that is wrong. Think about this though. Someone can't "get you drunk" you have to be a willing participant in the drinking. If the person is encouraging the drinking for that purpose, then he is a pig. If a man will take advantage of you while in that state, he is a pig. Any man who would slip a drug into your drink is a pig. No matter how you look at it, it is rape. But you can protect yourself by not drinking with people you don't know- always have a buddy system to protect yourself- or don't drink at all. And don't get drunk. Most people can drink without getting drunk. Know your limit and don't loose control. Or you can just not drink at all. The drugs can be slipped into soda though I think- maybe they don't work as well as they do in Alcohol, I don't know.

This is just one of the many reasons I don't drink at all.

Answer 4

Unless he physically forced the women to take the drugs or to drink the alcohol, HE didn't "get" the women drunk. They apparently willingly took the drugs or booze and got themselves into an impaired condition. Assuming he didn't rape them while they were unconscious, the women are still responsible for their own actions. A drunken woman's inebriated consent is still 100% legal consent and the consequences of climbing into the sack with a strange man are, at least in part, every drunken women's responsibility.

Encouraging an attractive woman to drink too much so she'll consent to something she wouldn't normally do is not a crime, nor is it immoral. It's just how the game is played. It may be that the women regret their unwise actions, but that doesn't mean the man did anything immoral or illegal. Luckily for us men, women cannot retroactively revoke their consent, just because they eventually sober-up. Sounds to me like the women may have learned a much needed life-lesson. ...or maybe you did.

Please note that this answer is exactly what you asked for, a logical reason why some people disagree with you. Personally, I gave up associating with strange young women decades ago -- too unpredictable, too irrational, and always far too much drama.

Answer 5

I assume you mean that he's encouraging the girls to drink or do drugs so that they will have impaired judgment, rather than surreptitiously drugging them or raping them when they are unconscious, which would not only be wrong, but illegal in most countries.

Manipulating people for ones own purposes is wrong, IMO, and getting someone drunk so that they will make choices they wouldn't make sober is quite unethical. I suspect those who question your motives in asking this are only seeking to divert the guilt over their complicity in the unethical behavior.

Answer 6

If the man in question really did drug two women to get them into bed with him--or purposely got them drunk for the same reason--yes, it would be wrong. But in your previous question, you stated that you saw this guy with two women on his arms, going to a car. You can't assume that that's what was going on; many of your answers to that question pointed that out. You're jumping to conclusions.

Answer 7

Not only is it not moral...it's illegal. What you're describing is legally rape. His intention makes it particularly immoral but doesn't have a lot to do with the legality. If you have sex with someone too drunk to consent, it's rape, even if the drunk person had all those drinks of her own free will. You have to be able to consent _at the time of intercourse_ for it to be considered consentual.

Answer 8

Well, it's wrong of the guy to take advantage of them in their state, but it was their choice to take the alcohol or drugs. (Unless he gave it to them without their knowledge, then yes! That's horribly immoral)

Answer 9

Getting someone to a state where they are incapable of consenting to sex--or refusing sex--so that they can be used is rape. Rape is wrong.

Answer 10

Who are you asking? I am certain that majority of people would agree with you. Perhaps you need to change your social circles.

Blessings,

Jack