Can anyone prove the that there's a trinity???
2007-11-14 09:42:19 · 11 answers · asked by Ro 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
LOL!! They'll have us believe that he was talking to himself.
Jesus is not God, and there is no trinity.
2007-11-14 09:48:02 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 4⤋
Although Jesus is God, He is not the Father. Jesus prayed to the Father the night He was arrested. The Trinity is one God in three persons.
Although the term "Trinity" is not found in the Scriptures, the doctrine is clearly displayed. There are many times where Jesus said of Himself that He was God. He applied the name of God, "I AM," (Cf. Exodus 3:14) to Himself in several passages. Here's a few examples: Matthew 14:27, Mark 6:50, Mark 13:6, Luke 21:8, John 4:26, John 6:20, John 8:24, 28, 58, and John 13:19. (Some of these examples aren't translated well into English, and some Bible use "It is I," or I am He," instead of the literal I am.) There are several others I have not listed. Besides this, Jesus said that He & the Father were one (John 10:30). This describes a unity, even though there are two.
The Trinity has an underlying appearance in the Old Testament as well. In Genesis, we see during creation that God said, "Let us make man in our image." and also when man sinned, God said, "...man has become as one of us, to know good and evil..." Who was He speaking to? The other persons of the Trinity. We also see that the Spirit of God hovered over the waters in the beginning, and in John 1:1-3, it clearly states that Jesus (the Word) made everything.
Another angle to pursue is the various Scriptures that demonstrate that God's attributes are present in Jesus as well as the Holy Spirit. For example, the Father is eternal (Psalm 90:2), and so is the Son (John 1:2), and so is the Holy Spirit (Hebrews 9:14). Another shared attribute is their holiness. Only God is truly holy. The Father is holy (Revelation 15:4), so is the Son (Acts 3:14), and so is the Spirit (Acts 1:8).
An ancient diagram of the Trinity can be helpful in getting your hands around the doctrine, and can be found at the link in the SOURCE list.
2007-11-14 17:48:06 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
The Father, the Son and The Holy Ghost are three different persons, just read the baphtize of Jesus, God spoke from heaven while the Holy Ghost decended in the form of a dove. Mat 3:16-17
2007-11-14 18:47:03 · answer #3 · answered by Patrick "Paddy" Murphy 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I believe that the Trinity can neither be proved or disproved. There are scriptures that can be interpreted so as to point to its existence, but there are others that can be used to point to its non existence.
Personally, I don't believe in the Trinity. I cannot see the Holy Spirit as a person, but more as an active force sent by God to help his followers.
2007-11-14 17:51:26 · answer #4 · answered by Trevor S 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Jesus was praying to another party in the trinity.
As for the three parties of the trinity; see Matt. 28:19.
2007-11-14 18:26:26 · answer #5 · answered by jefferyspringer57@sbcglobal.net 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
The hypostatic union is the term used to describe how God the Son, Jesus Christ, took on a human nature, yet remained fully God at the same time. Jesus always had been God (John 8:58; 10:30), but at the incarnation Jesus took on human flesh - He became a human being (John 1:14). The addition of the human nature to the divine nature is Jesus, the God-man. This is the hypostatic union, Jesus Christ, one Person, fully God and fully man.
Jesus' two natures, human and divine, are inseparable. Jesus will forever be the God-man, fully God and fully human, two distinct natures in one Person. Jesus' humanity and divinity are not mixed, but are united without loss of separate identity. Jesus sometimes operated with the limitations of humanity (John 4:6; 19:28) and other times in the power of His deity (John 11:43; Matthew 14:18-21). In both, Jesus' actions were from His one Person. Jesus had two natures, but only one person or personality.
The doctrine of the hypostatic union is an attempt to explain how Jesus could be both God and man at the same time. It is ultimately, though, a doctrine that we are incapable of fully understanding. It is impossible for us to fully understand how God works. We, as finite human beings, should not expect to be able to comprehend an infinite God. Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived by the Holy Spirit (Luke 1:35). But that does not mean Jesus did not exist before He was conceived. Jesus always has existed (John 8:58; 10:30). When Jesus was conceived, He became a human being in addition to being God (John 1:1,14).
Jesus is both God and man. Jesus has always been God, but He did not become a human being until He was conceived in Mary. Jesus became a human being so that He could identify with us in our struggles (Hebrews 2:17) and, more importantly, so that He could die on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins (Philippians 2:5-11). In summary, the hypostatic union teaches that Jesus is both fully human and fully divine, that there is no mixture or dilution of either nature, and that He is one united Person, forever.
Recommended Resource: The Moody Handbook of Theology by Paul Enns.
2007-11-14 22:39:23 · answer #6 · answered by Freedom 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Acts 17:29, "Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the GODHEAD is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device."
Romans 1:20, "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD ; so that they are without excuse:"
Colossians 2:9, "For in him (Jesus Christ) dwelleth all the fulness of the GODHEAD bodily."
Godhead is the biblical term. The term "trinity" is not found in the scriptures but the concept is there as well as the terminology--Godhead.
What do you think this means?
Genesis 1:26, "And God said, Let *US* make man in *OUR* image, after *OUR* likeness:"?
The God head is:
the Father (Yahweh, Jehovah),
The Son (Yahshuah, Jesus)
and the Holy Spirit (Comforter, Spirit of truth)
2007-11-14 17:53:56 · answer #7 · answered by steinbeck11 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Two basic things...
1. He shows us as an example how to pray, and to pray to God.
2. On earth, He was separated from the Father...
It is a really complex thing, can't explain it all here, but u can email me.
Take care, God bless
2007-11-14 17:48:23 · answer #8 · answered by AngieMama 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Jesus was a perfect example and the teacher.
2007-11-14 22:22:01 · answer #9 · answered by Nina, BaC 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
He was setting an example...Matt 28:19
2007-11-14 17:45:25 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋