From what medical school did the Jehovahs who answer blood questions on Yahoo Answers graduate?

Question

Mostly talking about the ones who answer all the treatment option questions. I didn't know Sally Struthers offered a home medical school course now.

for all Moises' websites we can find stories of people's lives saved by whole blood tranfusions. hope you never have an emergency where you lose most your blood, Dr. Moises

What admission criteria do you use, Joslin?

do you have names and contact information for these JW professionals, Vot?

sure, Vot. their professional contact information is appreciated. I'm sure they're listed in the phone book.

thanks Vot. that's what I thought. So you're just making an assumption, I see?

Answer 1

Jehovah's Witnesses have never pretended that their primary objections to misuse of blood are related to medicine. Of course, considering the wording of Acts 15:29, true Christians (such as Jehovah's Witnesses) are unsurprised at the increasing aversion to blood among the best surgeons and physicians.
...(Acts 15:29) Keep abstaining from ...blood... Good health to you!”
http://watchtower.org/e/hb/index.htm?article=article_05.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/vcnb/
http://jw-media.org/edu_videos/vcnb_e.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/vcnr/
http://jw-media.org/edu_videos/vcnr_e.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/vcae/
http://jw-media.org/edu_videos/vcae_e.htm
http://jw-media.org/vnr/2253636331/734353.htm


Instead, Jehovah's Witnesses are interested in obeying God and Christ. They believe that the scriptures demonstrate a clear pattern indicating the sacredness with which Jehovah God (and thus god-fearing humankind) views all creature blood.


Predates Mosaic Law.
For example, over a thousand years before the birth of Moses, the pre-Israel, pre-Jewish, pre-Hebrew man Noah received what the scriptures record as only the second restrictive command on humans (after Garden of Eden's tree):

"Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you; and as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything. Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. For your lifeblood I will surely require a reckoning; of every beast I will require it [that is, lifeblood] and of man" (Genesis 9:3-5)


Jewish Law.
Later, God's feeling regarding blood was codified into the Mosaic Law. This part of the Law dealing with blood was unique in that it applied, not just to Israel, but also to non-Jewish foreigners among them. It's also interesting that besides forbidding the consumption of blood, the Law also mandated that it be 'poured out on the ground', not used for any purpose.

"No person among you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger who sojourns among you eat blood. Any man also of the people of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among them, who takes in hunting any beast or bird that may be eaten shall pour out its blood and cover it with dust." (Lev 17:12,13)

By comparison, it's significant that the Law also forbid the consumption of ceremonial animal fat, but that didn't apply to non-Jewish foreigners and it DID allow the fat to be used for other purposes.

"The LORD said to Moses, "Say to the people of Israel, You shall eat no fat, of ox, or sheep, or goat. The fat of an animal that dies of itself, and the fat of one that is torn by beasts, may be put to any other use" (Lev 7:22-24)


Early Christian era.
The Christian era ended the validity of the Mosaic Law, but remember that the restriction on eating blood preceded the Mosaic Law by over a thousand years. Still, does the New Testament indicate that Jehovah God changed his view of blood's sacredness?

"[God] freely bestowed on us in the Beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses" (Eph 1:6,7)

"[God's] beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins... and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood" (Colossians 1:13-20)

"we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the pollutions of idols and from unchastity and from what is strangled and from blood." (Acts 15:19,20)

"For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from unchastity." Acts 15:28,29


Modern times
Some will claim that the bible's command to "abstain" from blood only applies to eating it, and does not apply to the use of blood for other purpose. If that form of respect for blood were common among Christendom, one might wonder then why so many (who ostensibly follow the book of Acts) so happily eat their blood sausage and blood pudding if they truly respect blood according to some limited understanding of Acts 15:20,29. In fact, respect for blood and for Acts and for the Scriptures themselves is too rare among even supposedly god-fearing persons.

An honest review of the Scriptural pattern over the millenia from Noah to the Apostle Paul teaches humans that blood is to be used for a single purpose: acknowledging the Almighty. Otherwise, for centuries the instruction was to simply dispose of it; 'poor it upon the ground'. When Jehovah's Witnesses pursue non-blood medical management, they are working to honor and obey their Creator.

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/hb/
http://watchtower.org/e/vcnb/article_01.htm

Answer 2

Folly folly folly! There are Jehovah's Witnesses in almost every profession. We have doctors, lawyers, inventors, engineers etc. All the articles in the Watchtower and Awake are well-researched before anything is published.

Even non-JW doctors agree with us about the risks of blood transfusions, and many, many non-JWs refuse blood transfusions, only not for religious reasons.

Deny it all you want. Some people say a lot of things are not in the Bible so they can do anything they want. Not that it is not in the Bible, they just ignore.

EDIT: You want me to give out personal info on this forum?

EDIT: Seeing you SINCERELY want to know, how about you check out the yellow pages, find the local JW branch office number and ask for the contact details of anyone on the local Hospital Liaison Committee. They will put you in contact with as many doctors as you like.

EDIT: Not an assumption. I think it better that you phone your LOCAL branch because I know for a FACT that you and I are in different countries, don't want you clocking up bills dialling international. Every branch in any country can give you that info. I am now sure that you are NOT sincere, or you'd have phoned them up already.

Answer 3

From several trainee videos prepared by Doctors around the world (Non JWs) that explain all the possibilities that bloodness treatment have. but the main source is the bible forbid it no matter if you like or not , it is in the bible and nobody can say it is not there.

You will see in a few days how blood transfusion are going to be useless giving the reason not to JWs but to the bible.


http://www.dukemednews.org/news/article.php?id=10149

Banked Blood Loses Ability to Deliver Oxygen to Tissues


http://www.dukemednews.org/news/article.php?id=8185

Blood Transfusions Increase Mortality of Hospitalized Heart Patients

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/09/14/peru-hiv.html

Peru closes blood banks after HIV infections

Answer 4

can you say cut 'n paste (from the Watchtower)? What I want to know is how those who author the articles in the WT come up with their "medical" advice when they don't have a college education amongst them? If they do, then isn't it hypocritical to strongly discourage and/or condemn continued education in the "worldly" realm of college for the rank and file?

Moises: how many times do we have to tell you it is NOT in the Bible!!!!! Eating blood in meat that is not properly drained is NOT the same thing! Blood transfusions were not even KNOWN in Biblical times. Why do we have to keep stating the obvious? The WT loves to twist Scripture until it can force it into its preconceived mode.

Answer 5

I have studied with the Witnesses and I find some of the things that the witnesses are doing here of concern. I have noticed allot of name calling and lots of nonsense. This medical information is very worrisome, and I will have to ask about it.

I have also watched Moises badger others here, and find him /or her/a very poor example of a christian.

Answer 6

I posted this question and got a reply from an actual doctor:





Jehovah's Witnesses and Blood transfusions..Do you believe what this doctor says?
This is a reply that I got from a medical doctor, to a question concerning a Jehovah's Witness mother who died and left behind 2 new born baby girls after delivery.

The Watchtower pints nonsense about how Blood is not necessary. This is a reply from a real doctor, not a publishing company.....Will you listen now?
I'm a doctor and have found myself in the appalling situation of trying to save a life where the patient refuses blood because they are a JW. If they have signed a form there's nothing we can do, but if it's a child ie if the parent refuses to allow their child a life saving transfusion, we can overrule them.

They get their anti transfusion beliefs as follows:


They cite four biblical texts (Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:12-14, Acts 15:29 and Acts 21:25). They say these mean that blood, the life-force, belongs to God and is not there for human use. They believe it a sin to eat not just black pudding but also to eat the flesh of animals that have not been properly bled.

And they extend the ban to transfusions. They won't even allow someone's blood to be stored before an operation and then used after it to replace their own blood loss. Blood is not to be stored; it is to be poured out and returned to God. Some JWs even reject dialysis or cell salvage on these grounds. Some will not accept red cells, white cells, platelets or plasma, but accept "fractions" made from these components.

There is a philosophical problem here. When a substance is broken down into components does the original remain? Some 90-96 per cent of blood plasma consists of water. The remainder is albumin, globulins, fibrinogen and coagulation factors. JWs say these may be used, according to conscience, but only if taken separately. Opponents say is like outlawing a ham and cheese sandwich but allowing the eating of bread, ham and cheese separately.

They are criticised for other inconsistencies. Blood fraction products are only available because of blood donation – a practice JWs condemned as unethical.

Many JWs still carry a signed and witnessed advance directive card absolutely refusing blood in the event of an accident. And the church's website still carries alarmist material about the dangers of transfusions in transmitting Aids, Lyme Disease and other conditions. It also exaggerates the effectiveness of alternative non-blood medical therapies.

What do doctors think?

The British Association of Anaesthetists guidelines insist that the wishes of the patient must normally be paramount. US doctors take a similar view; they know giving blood to someone who does not want it could get them sued – one of the busiest trauma hospitals in Florida even has a blanket policy of refusing to treat JWs.

Other countries, like France, take a more dirigiste view. And a landmark case in Dublin recently ruled that doctors were right to give a woman blood during childbirth because the right of her child to have a mother over-ruled her own right to refuse the blood.

There are even more subtle dilemmas to come. One asks whether doctors are obliged to give chemotherapy, which is normally accompanied by a blood transfusion, to patients who insist on having it without the blood, without which it is highly likely to fail. As medicine advances things are likely to get more, rather than less, tricky.

One more thing. Their literal interpretation of the Bible allows them (not unlike the Catholic church) to keep child abuse secret: Not good. They take Deuteronomy 19:15 literally, which demands two witnesses to a crime (not easy in cases of abuse). And they cite 1 Corinthians 6:1-11 – "Does anyone of you that has a case against the other dare to go to court before unrighteous men, and not before the holy ones?" – to justify trying to deal with criminals with courts of elders rather than courts of law. A Panorama investigation reported they have an internal list of 23,720 reported abusers which they keep private. Studies in the US suggest they have proportionally four times more sexual assaults on children than the Catholic Church.

Any religion which literally interprets the Bible, and keeps its doings secret can be a cause of harm in my view. And the idea that a woman can die leaving twins, motherless because of an obscure text in the Bible appals me as a doctor and a human being.

Dr Evie Wallace

Answer 7

School of my own research and knowledge.
I am the dean of admissions, the principal, the VP, and the one and only professor.

Answer 8

They graduated from Jehovahs Medical School.

Ha ha ha I just about fell off my chair laughing at my own joke.

What? Yeah well whatever.

Answer 9

Oral Roberts University