Is that not the stupidest thing you ever hear of ?
It doesn't even fit in with there bible .
Hebrews 10:26 For if we practice sin willfully after receiving the accurate knowledge of the truth there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left.
2007-11-14 01:12:02
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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EveryBody has Missed the Point on this one.
1. When you Get your Spirit Recreated you will Want to Live for Jesus.
Jesus didn't Sin. At All.
If you Resist Living for Jesus (FreeWill even after your Saved)
you will Really Live a Hell of a Life---satan will Make Sure of It!!!
You don't get Away with a Thing on this Earth.
GOD is Not Mocked---you Will REAP what you have SOWN.
And, if your a Child of GOD sowing Sin---your Really getting into Big Trouble, with satan.
Now, as Far as LOSING your Salvation
Hebrews 6:4,5,6 is the Unpardonable Sin
it is the Only Way to Lose your Salvation After your Saved.
Very Few Children of GOD Commit this Sin, and Very Few ever get to the Point (growing up in The Lord) Where THEY CAN commit this Sin.
It is Hard to Commit and it Takes Time.
You will Have Plenty of Time to Turn Back to GOD Almighty IF you want to (FreeWill).
Hope this Helps.
2007-11-14 01:48:22
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answered by maguyver727 7
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James 2:19 says “You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!” The type of “belief” demons have can be compared to the intellectual assent made by those who “believe” in Jesus only in the fact that he exists. Many unbelievers say “I believe in God,” or “I believe in Jesus,” or perhaps some might say “I prayed a prayer and the preacher said I was saved.” The problem is in the understanding of the word “believe.” With true salvation comes genuine repentance and real life change. Second Corinthians 5:17 tells us that when we are in Christ, we are a “new creation.” Is it possible that the new person Christ creates is one who continues to walk in the carnality of the flesh? It is not.
Salvation is certainly free, but at the same time, it costs us everything. We are to die to ourselves as we become more and more changed into the likeness of Christ
2007-11-14 02:31:27
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answered by Freedom 7
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I belong to a Christian church that is open to many ways of thinking. We must all be believers in Christ.
I spent most my life thinking if you do something horrible you become unsaved.
But as time passed I began to understand that if you are truly saved you would never do anything so bad as to become unsaved. If you do you were never saved in the first place.
If a person was a believer and then became an unbeliever that person was never saved to begin with.
It took me many years to understand this. It was after I became saved that I finally started slowly to understand.
2007-11-14 01:25:12
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answered by Ruth 7
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I believe that once you are saved, you are always saved, and yes, this is taught at my church. However...IF you are truly saved you will turn from sin (even though you will fall sometimes) and you WILL have visible fruits or works! For example, the person that says they prayed the prayer of salvation and are saved, but then keep on with their lives as usual (still drinking, cursing, lying, whatever the sin of choice may be) with absolutely no visible changes in their behavior were never saved to begin with. When you accept Christ as your Savior the Holy Spirit takes up residence in your body and opens your eyes to your sin, making it increasingly difficult to walk in sin. The Spirit causes you to turn from sin toward righteousness. You will hunger for God's Word and His holiness in your life, you WILL begin to change immediately; you are a new creature and all of the old has passed away. Those that are truly saved will have noticeable changes. I believe that once you are saved that you are saved forever because the Bible states that He will never leave nor forsake us; He will be with us always, even unto the end of the earth; that He has lost none that were given to Him, save the son of perdition, etc.
2007-11-14 01:23:05
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answered by Anonymous
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Name me one person in the bible who lost Salvation?
Let me give you names of some and you can do a search.
King David- Slept with Bathsheba who was married. Her huband was sent into battle and was killed. Of course David knew he would be killed, that was the plan.
Peter- Denied Jesus 3 times.
Neither one of these men lost salvation. Salvation belongs to the Lord not us. When I got saved I walked after the Spirit for 4 years, and lived as close to God as I could. Then I backslid and lived after the flesh for 3 1/2 years. Now I am back right with God. I never doubted I was saved. Jesus knew what I would do on the day he saved me. Even though he knew he still saved me. Those 3 1/2 years away from God, and Jesus, I knew I was living in sin, and I knew I was hurting the Lord, but I was so far into sin I couldn't find my way out.
I was the prodigal daughter. But praise unto God I am back, and am growing more than I ever was. This is taught in the word of God.
2007-11-14 01:15:01
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answered by Anonymous
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You can't receive Holy Spirit unless you are saved. Hebrews 6:4-6. You can't fool Jesus and his Father who can read minds into thinking you are saved and giving that free gift to you. And yes, you can lose salvation and have holy spirit removed from you. It is the unpardonable sin. Matthew 12:31, 32, 36, 37
I know of 2 and more who lost salvation. Ananias and his wife Saphira. Acts 5:1-11 They were even of the heaven class set to be kings and priests.
The counsel to the anointed heavenly congregations in Revelation chapters 1-3 shows that they were also in a position in danger of being rejected and losing their salvation unless they corrected themselves quickly.
Debbie
2007-11-14 01:49:52
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answered by debbiepittman 7
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Yes, some churches do teach this very philosophy, though they candy coat it with generalized statements like "Well, if you continue to live like a hedonist, you weren't saved to begin with."
I tend to believe that Christians should stop viewing "saved" as a singular event that suddenly solves all of their problems and makes them better people. It seems to me that Scripture supports a lifestyle of being focussed on a relationship with God. Some people get the behavior thing down right away, and others struggle. But it's a spirit of humility and repentance that should define your faith. Not a set of behavioral rules or an idea that you have it all figured out.
2007-11-14 01:15:23
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answered by dan 1
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I believe in "once saved always saved", but the doctrine is not as you describe it.
If a person continues in sin after claiming to be saved, then it is quite possible that person did not have a genuine conversion experience. We are saved FROM sin, not TO sin. We are saved TO good works, which is the fruit of the Spirit manifested in our lives. The apostle Paul makes this clear in his writings. The book of James also explains this concept.
However, there is no additional requirement for salvation--no magic # of prescribed prayers, not baptism, not communion, etc. that proves someone is a Christian. It is dependent on God's grace to us through faith in Jesus Christ. It is what Jesus did for us, not what we do.
As Christians, we are to exhort and encourage weaker brothers continuing in sin rather than judge them. There is no way for us to know which ones are saved and just backslidden and which ones may not be truly reborn. It is important that we live the best example of Christ before others that we can, pray for them, and point out what the Bible says as we have opportunity.
I know there are church members who are abusing God's grace as you describe, just at there are church members of other denominations counting on their works to save them...both are perversions of the gospel message.
2007-11-14 01:17:17
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answered by arklatexrat 6
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To be saved does not mean that you are stained free from all wrong doing. No it is the inner being that should always strive to be like Christ. We cannot be called Christians and then not be living examples of our Redeemer.
We are called to be accountable for our action and therefor should be always aware of what we do and say.
I find it really hard that our leaders advocate the death penalty and make all kinds of justification for it, but never consider too that in christ we are all called to repent and to practice the gift given to us by christ, as he sent the Holy Spirit amongst us for the forgiveness of sins.
So to be Christians, is not to be in Church by apearance only but to live out HIS gospel in word and deed.
When you are baptised and cleansed from original sin, you embarked on that spiritual journey, whereby you will reject satan, all his works and empty promises, and so not fall victim to it. So to be saved is a journey began that calls us to greater awareness of our being and how we should live out our "Christianess" and be the shining light of hope to those who might not know the CHrist we follow.
2007-11-14 01:26:16
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answered by Thurnie 1
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I would hate to think such tripe is being taught in Church's, but if you consider that in some churches today, they do not even use the word of God, and in some they ignore what it says, in the area of abortion, same sex relationships etc, nothing could surprise me anymore. But bare in mind, our Lord said that in the last days there would be many teaching false doctrine.
2007-11-14 01:23:17
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answered by Anonymous
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