How many Christians would go out to murder,kill,and rape?...?

Question

If they found out positively that God didn't exist,and there was no "judgment"?I ask this because even those of you who will not like this question,surely you have seen comments to that effect posted over and over.So,for the record,is the only reason you don't do these things because of your belief in god?If not,can we please retire the "atheists have no morals" "free to fulfill every wicked desire without god"comments?

fat:just admit you really can't answer that without looking VERY bad.It would have been simpler

Answer 1

Atheists are people who, whether they like it or not, have the law of God written on their hearts (Rom. 2:15). They are subject to the same laws of our country (and other countries) and they have a sense of right and wrong. They often work with people who are religious and have ethical standards as well as non-believers who are don't. So they are exposed to all sorts of moral behavior. In addition, they often form their own moral standards based on what suits them. Besides, robbery, lying, stealing, etc., can get you imprisoned, so it is practical and logical for an atheist to be ethical and work within the norms of social behavior. How ever you want to look at it, atheists, generally, are honest, hardworking people.

Nevertheless, some Christians raise the question, "What is to prevent an atheist from murdering and stealing? After all, they have no fear of God and no absolute moral code." The answer is simple: Atheists are capable of governing their own moral behavior and getting along in society the same as anyone else.

At the risk of labeling the atheist as self-centered, it does not serve the best interests of an atheist to murder and steal since it would not take long before he was imprisoned and/or killed for his actions. Basically, society will only put up with so much if it is to function smoothly. So, if an atheist wants to get along and have a nice life, murdering and stealing won't accomplish it. It makes sense for him to be honest, work hard, pay his bills, and get along with others. Basically, he has to adopt a set of ethics common to society in order to do that. Belief in God is not a requirement for ethical behavior or an enjoyable life.

On the other hand
Atheists' morals are not absolute. They do not have a set of moral laws from an absolute God by which right and wrong are judged. But, they do live in societies that have legal systems with a codified set of laws. This would be the closest thing to moral absolutes for atheists. However, since the legal system changes the morals in a society can still change and their morals along with it. At best, these codified morals are "temporary absolutes." In one century abortion is wrong. In another, it is right. So, if we ask if it is or isn't it right, the atheist can only tell us his opinion.

If there is a God, killing the unborn is wrong. If there is no God, then who cares? If it serves the best interest of society and the individual, then kill. This can be likened to something I call, "experimental ethics." In other words, whatever works best is right. Society experiments with ethical behavior to determine which set of rules works best for it. Hopefully, these experiments lead to better and better moral behavior. But, as we see by looking into society, this isn't the case: crime is on the rise.

There are potential dangers in this kind of self-established/experimental ethical system. If a totalitarian political system is instituted and a mandate is issued to kill all dissenters, or Christians, or mentally ill, what is to prevent the atheist from joining forces with the majority system and support the killings? It serves his self-interests, so why not? Morality becomes a standard of convenience, not absolutes.


But, to be fair, just because someone has an absolute ethical system based on the Bible, there is no guarantee that he will not also join forces in doing what is wrong. People are often very inconsistent. But the issue here is the basis of moral beliefs and how they affect behavior. That is why belief systems are so important and absolutes are so necessary. If morals are relative, then behavior will be too. That can be dangerous if everyone starts doing right in his own eyes. A boat adrift without an anchor will eventual crash into the rocks.


The Bible teaches love, patience, and seeking the welfare of others even when it might harm the Christian. In contrast, the atheists' presuppositions must be constantly changing, and subjective and does not demand love, patience, and the welfare of others. Instead, since the great majority of atheists are evolutionists, their morality, like evolution is the product of purely natural and random processes that become self serving.


Basically, the atheist cannot claim any moral absolutes at all. To an atheist, ethics must be variable and evolving. This could be good or bad. But, given human nature being what it is, I'll opt for the moral absolutes -- based on God's word -- and not on the subjective and changing morals that atheism offers.

Answer 2

I would never do that. Just because there would be no eternal repercussions does not remove the mortal repercussions (jail, mental problems, etc.)

With regard to the Crusades comment, it can be easily seen that those in charge of the Crusades (i.e. the pope, cardinals, etc.) were definitely not following any call from God. The soldiers in the Crusades were fighting only because they believed that they were supposed to because the pope told them so or because of the promise of personal gain. Christ was in no way involved in those events.

With regard to the Iran comment: WTF? Do you even read newspapers? It's pretty common knowledge that the few Christians in Iran are the ones being persecuted by the Islamic majority (in much the same way the Islamic majority actively persecute anyone who isn't a Muslim anywhere they have a majority). Try doing a little research before spouting your obvious bias.

Answer 3

Right away? Probably a few, but not very many.

What determines right and wrong for people who DON'T believe in God? I'll answer my own question here: Their upbringing (the morals they were raised with), and what the law states. Now, what happens if a person is raised with NO morals, and there are no consequences for doing wrong, whether in this life, or after this life? It's true that some things would not be conducive to society, but so what? Why would that matter? When morality is subjective rather than objective, many people would do whatever feels good, whether it's "conducive to society" or not.

Murder isn't conducive to society, but how long would it be, if murder were legal, before a person kills someone for making them mad? Theft is not conducive to society, but how long would it be, if theft were legal, before a person stole something when their covetous nature got the best of them?

I'm not saying this would happen right away, and maybe it wouldn't happen at all...but I'm sure there are some, if not many, who would do whatever it took to make them happy.

When there is no absolute in morality, lawlessness arises. Look at our current society, and try to tell me otherwise.

Answer 4

Every individual is different and I therefore can not speak for every christian. However, personally, I do not commit a lot of heinous acts because of my belief in God but it goes further than just believing in God. I truly believe that your conscious is God's presence in your life and it keeps you from doing wrong. If I believed today that God existed and then found out tomorrow that he really didn't...I wouldn't change my lifestyle. Belief in God or not, I don't want to and don't like to hurt others whether it be physically or emotionally. I wouldn't all of a sudden become some crazy criminal if I found out God didn't exist. Especially because I have believed and lived my life in Him since I was a child. It is almost a habit do right to others because it is what I have done all my life. Sooo...the ONLY reason that I don't DESIRE to do those things is probably my 22 years of faith and if I found out tomorrow that my faith was unfounded...then my desire to do things could increase but my habitual lifestyle of treating others right would not permit it. Besides, I am a christian and I don't believe that atheists have no morals. I just believe that they don't believe God exists and when we die we just die. You can have morals and not believe but I feel like atheists look forward to nothing in life. Which is sad but I'm not judging. Do what you do.

Answer 5

The bible is very clear on this. We are all evil, through and through, when compared to the righteousness of God. It's the presence of the Holy Spirit in this world that keeps us all, non-believers included, from loosing all moral direction.

If you don't believe this, just wait a few years. When Jesus comes to take believers out of this world, the Holy Spirit will leave too. My best guess, based on the book of Revelation, is that this whole world will go down the tubes real quick after that. The murder and rape you speak of will be quite commonplace.

Answer 6

we are all sinners. these dont just go with moral but laws. you do these things you are breaking the law. if you wanted to ask something why not ask something that christians and moral both agree with. like how to date. good morals was the guy pays for the dinner, go out in public, wait tell you are married to have sex. etc. were as most people go to a bar pick up a chick go back have sex if it is good they date for a while and then move on to the next person. well maybe not most but some do. good moral is teaching your kids to not smoke or drink. at least while they are under age. now a days parents are letting there kids smoke and drink now. my neighboors son is 10 and smokes with his dad.

as a christian there are somethings i dont do now that i would if i was not christian. same as being married. however i know a lot of people who are married and still out cheating. or being with others. not saying all christians are perfect either cause i know some who do as well. and not to judge but christian means christlike. anyone can say they are christian but are they really. i cant judge however God knows.

Answer 7

everyone sins, it doesn't matter what your beliefs are. if i was rto find out that i was wrong and god doesn't exist i wouldn't change who i am, i'm not a murderer now and thats not a sin that i struggle with so i'm not going to start. and when you say there would be no judgement, there will still be consequences for your actins, that is why god gave us the 10 commandments to begin with, it's not a set of rules given to us by a big meanie that just wants to tell us what to do, they were warnings of what could happen if you do. if you commit adultry against your spouse, there are consequences, unwanted pregnancy, disease, hurt feelings, the loss of a marriage, even more problems if children are involved. if you kill someone, you have hurt their entire family, you will live with guilt and remorse, you can go to jail for the rest of your life or get death penalty. so it's not just the fear of judgement that keeps us in line, it's common sense that god has instilled us with through his commandments. if you tell you son, don't have sex with that hooker, it's not because you want to tell him what to do, it's because you know whats best and you understand the consequences. and we as christians believe that we will not be judged, jesus took our judgement for us, and i don't believe that atheists are moraless people, but they are just not forgiven for the sins that they struggle with.

Answer 8

the government already has regulations against rape, homicide and robbery, and that i think of they even enforce maximum of them. of course, all those issues are incredibly incredibly undesirable, yet protesting them shouldn't substitute something. i'm honestly particular nearly all of murders be attentive to what they doing is erroneous, they do exactly not care. human beings already be attentive to homicide is immoral so a P.R. marketing campaign incredibly does not help. combating homicide, Rape, and so on. is in contrast to telling young ones on the subject of the well being detrimental aspects of smoking. in case you rather don't think in God, and think of it rather is a gaggle of B.S.,, why might you like to take down the ten Commandments. I wager you do not have self assurance in Monsters or Ghosts yet i don't see human beings annoying that Halloween decorations be banned from public colleges. If God is in basic terms an insignificant absurdity like conversing bunnies why might it count number if a Bible develop into in a public college library? no person is accessible annoying that all the copies of "Peter Rabbit" be remote from public view.

Answer 9

But isn't this what we see under the disguise of "my country right or wrong?"

Many who think they are Christian permit themselves to go to war and while soldiering for their country they perhaps kill, at the very least study the art of killing and are willing to do so -- or they wouldn't be soldiers, right?

Thus the question begs: what really is the difference between such 'Christians' and the people of other religions, philosophies who also embrace the philosophy "my country right or wrong?"

How are these Christians doing what Christ said, that they and he are no part of the world? And, that if they were part of this world -- they would fight for Christ's kingdom and for Christ not to have been delivered up to be killed?

Indeed, there is a lot of dangerous philosophy out there that may lead the Christian astray from the 'narrow road that leads to life.'

Answer 10

Christians would no more do these things than an Atheist would! I think people are in particularly foul moods this morning and I am getting off the Computer and getting to work!