I frequently see certain Christians trumpeting "Catholics edited the Bible!". Which parts were edited?

Question

I'd love to know, from a "non-Catholic" Christian, what are some passages from "Catholic" Bibles which do not match the most popular version of the Bible, known as the King James Version.

Please note: the deutero-canonical books, aka "apocrypha", are not the issue. Those were REMOVED, not added. Also note: Martin Luther tried to have Revelation removed too, unsuccessfully, of course.

So, I ask knowledgeable non-Catholics to step forward and answer: Exactly which verses were edited by the Catholic Church, and what did those verses say before they were supposedly edited?

non-answers, evaders, and diverters get a thumbs down.
Thanks. God bless =)

8 answers so far, and still no concrete examples. Disappointing, yet not surprising.

Answer 1

Actually, if anyone has ever read a Bible in English they have read an edited Bible, since the N.T. was originally in Greek and the O.T. in Hebraic. Over the years with each new version the "editors" take their own liberties using words that may or may not convey the entirely correct meaning intended by the original authors. Revisions are not something particulary Catholic or Non-Catholic. Paul never spoke a word of Latin yet Catholics still use it to this day. Paul never used the words "thee" and "though" yet many revere the King James Bible as the original Bible. Any Christians declaring "Catholics edited the Bible!" should finish their sentence, "and so did we."

As far as versions I have heard are pretty dependable in their translations into english I can't remember if it was the New Revised Standard Version or the New American Standard Bible that stood out on top.

Answer 2

I am not sure you are using "trumpeting" correctly here, but the most obvious difference is the Lords prayer, which differs between the Protestant (King James) and Vulgate (Catholic) Bibles - trespassers vs debtors.
The Catholic Bible was first and was used as the basis, along with Greek versions, for the local language bibles of protestantism. The King James is simply one version of the English language Bible, not the first and not the last.
Down through the centuries, the writings that make up the Bible were edited by the only church that existed - the Catholic Church - or the one of two competitors with the Orthodox church. The history of the Church includes many major meetings to hammer out conflicts in beliefs that had developed. The Nicene Creed resulted from one of those.
I have to wonder, also, if your question was simply to give that person with the long, long, long answer (also you?) a chance to post the rant.

Answer 3

First of all we really don't know exactly , except for the few well know gospel discrepancies .( The only important one being the decrepancy regarding the sighting of the living Jesus after the death on the cross . The point is the Catholics put together the NT .They probably never did any important editing of the NT ( or the OT ) once it was already in distribution .They created the NT ,a collective book, by consensus with strong influence by St.Paul and Constantine . If a person was able to get an entry into the book they gained repect and position . So it is assumed that some people edited their submissions to make them "fit" . In other cases revisions were suggested by vote or neccesity . And as you said other items were just rejected because they could not be made to fit .
If you consider that the Bible is supposed to be the word of god via inspired writers then one can assume any revisions were god's word . If you consider that the Bible is a bunch of fables , fairy tales , propaganda , nonsense , etc. it really doesn't make any sort of difference who changed what .

Answer 4

Sadly, the King James Version is extraordinarily political and perhaps the poorest of all translations I have read.

It adds unicorns to the bible, and changes poisoner to "witch" in Leviticus, since James I hated witches, (he wrote a book on the subject that was used to condemn many). Though he didn't interfere with the KJV, the translators and a horrible agenda, which is evident in the work.

In fact many historians visit KJV for insight into the politics of his reign. He was also an extremely notorious homosexual. Despite, that his Bible takes a harsher tone to homosexuals, probably to help cover the well known fact.

The best versions, in my opinion, are the current catholic ones, they have the most current manuscripts. This hasn't always been true. But the catholics are quick to study and note the historical aspects and not interpret it as literal. They also have been increaseingly correcting the dates and authors of the books, which adds much clarity to context.

They also pocess some of the oldest manuscripts and don't suffer from Luther's personal beliefs- He was extremely anti-semetic, and removed much of the Hebrew context, making it a tad more pagan, which started long before in ancient Rome.

The other two strong Bibles, are the eastern Orthodox and Coptic scriptures, which contain much of the rest of the apocrapha, but may be closer to original sources having not suffered the translations of amitious rulers. The Gnostics for example were scribes.

Many leaders changed the Bible, for Genesis to Now, to suit their own needs. It wouldn't suprise me if Adam had really been created from Eve's rib in the original version.

There are two versions in the current Bible anyway.

Answer 5

Non where edited................Which books of the Old Testament did the Apostles accept as Scripture? Did they accept the 46 books as in the Catholic Douay-Rheims Bible or the 39 books as in the King James version? The Septuagint was accepted among the Hellenistic sect of Judaism (of which St. Paul was a member) and this canon did indeed include the same books as the present-day Catholic Bible. In addition, the entire New Testament was written in Greek (Hellenist) with the exception of the Gospel of St. Matthew, which was written in Aramaic (the language spoken by Christ). Over 85% of the quotes from the Old Testament that are used in the New Testament are from the Septuagint. The Palestinian Old Testament canon was not compiled until between 70-90 A.D. and then, it was done so by the non-Christian Jews in violent reaction to early Judeo-Christianity. The Palestinian canon was the one chosen by Martin Luther based on the acceptance of it by the 16th century German Jewish community of Luther's time. This canon excludes the seven books that were accepted by the Apostles as Scripture. Why was the canon of the Protestant Old Testament decided by Jews and not Christians? In addition, why did Luther attempt to eliminate the Book of St. James and the Book of Revelation? Is it because they contradicted his dogma of "faith alone?"

During the Reformation, did the Protestants "re-evaluate" all the deutero-canonical and apocryphal Christian writings such as the Gospel of St. James, the Acts of St. Paul, the Apocalypse of St. Peter, the Gospel of St. Mary Magdalene, the Gospel of St. Thomas and the myriad of other writings from the first and second centuries of the Christianity? No. The Protestants accepted the New Testament as defined by the Catholic Church in the late 4th century. Why accept the Canon as defined and preserved by the Catholic Church yet not accept the other teachings of this same Church?I hope the points I have made in regards to the Bible point out the misunderstanding of non-Catholic Christians in believing that the Bible is the sole authority of Christianity. The Catholic Church Itself states that nothing that the Church teaches can contradict Scripture as the Bible is the truth and is without error (CCC 107). Also, reading of the Bible is encouraged by the Catholic Church (CCC 131-133) and always has been.
To have the Bible as the only and sole authority of Christianity is to invite chaos into the Church. There are at least 5 Protestant denominations created every year based on a different interpretation of the Bible. Theoretically, anyone who owns a Bible can create their own denomination based on their own interpretation of Scripture. Taken to its logical conclusion, chaos is what happens when the doctrine of "Sola Scriptura" is applied. And Christ stated "A tree is recognized by its fruit" (Matthew 12:33) and the doctrine of Sola Scriptura produces "bad fruit" (disunity, confusion and separation).

Answer 6

Catholics and Orthodox bibles contain books not only found from the Tanakh (hebrew) but from the Greek Septuagint.

This bascialy means that some pieces of the bible( esp daniel and esther) are edited to blend to 2 versions together.

To be honest it is not that the wording is entirely different, it is just that the language used could result in a different interpretaion and therefore a different meaning.

For example Genesis 4:7 is acommon example:

In Septuagint:
Hast thou not sinned if thou hast brought it rightly, but not rightly divided it? Be still, to thee shall be his submission, and thou shalt rule over him.

But from the Hebrew side:
Surely, if you improve yourself, you will be forgiven. But if you do not improve yourself, sin rests at the door. Its desire is toward you, yet you can conquer it.

Now, the language is different but still seems the same, however with catholic and christians further changing it to their own NIV language the similarities in meaning drifted further apart.

This is why they say catholics edited the bible but, christians main case come from the fact that Septuagint versions were written after the hebrew releases and catholics put it (mainly because it was greek) over the other documents as a source to check by.

It's very confusing, but i hoped i helped :)

Answer 7

How can you confidently say KJV is the best?? Have you comapred it to the original? Even the grrest christian scholar would not be able to say which is the best version, because the original was destroyed centuries ago!

Do you know that the Revised standard version which has been revised by 32 SCHOLARS OF THE HIGHEST EMINENCE, BACKED MY 50 CO-OPERATING DENOMINATIONS, has deleted the verse on TRINITY in the bible:

"There are 3 that bear record i heaven:the father, son and holy ghost and these 3 are one."

So,the trinity is actually false??

There are many many more editions.

THE BEST PART IS THAT : THERE WONT EVEN BE A RECORD OF WHAT DELETIONS HAVE TAKEN PLACE !!

Answer 8

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Answer 9

That's where you are wrong my dear. Christians didn't edit the King James version of the Bible. They edited the original Bible (I will call it the Jewish Bible as Jews still use it) into the King James Bible. They took out certain parts and changed certain passages, while throwing in a few Pagan beliefs.

Answer 10

Actually, it is the protestants that had edited the bible ...... the catholics compiled the original bible .... LOL .....

The protestants get the bible, take out the books which they don't agree with, then cry foul.