A non-baiting question about the TALMUD?

Question

Does one exist? I have seen a bunch of questions on here saying how evil the Talmud is and the bad things it says about JC.

Well, news flashes to those ignorant people who take quotes out of the Talmud to try to demonize Judaism--you are wrong.

The Talmud doesn't even mention JC. It mentions a man named Yeshu who some people misinterpret to think JC but who is in actuality a different person altogether.

Jews as young kids are not taught anything about JC, he is not bastardized. Because he is not important to our religion, we aren't taught anything about him.

This question is for everyone: what quotes do there exist in your religion that people try to take out of context to bash or use your religion to their gains?

Answer 1

I note that one respondent here still tries to claim it refers to Jesus. Odd that rather than investigate claims and read and learn from evidence to determine for themselves, they'd rather cling to rumor.

They don't even bother to think of the TIME frame in which particular people in the texts lived or the places in which the texts were written. If the Yeshu in the Talmud was referring to Jesus, then the dating in their "inerrant" Gospels is wrong by about 120 years. It is as the question here states, pulled out of context in order to incite Jew hate with a false claim.

So, either they lie about the Talmud or Jesus was not born in the time of Herod at all but in the time of Alexander Jannæus, as the Yeshu Ben Panderas they most often refer to ( born of a hairdresser named Miriam ) was born around 120 BCE!

The Toledot Yeshu ( which is not a part of Talmud but a later rabbinic writing) is an anti-Christian parody that first appeared in the MIDDLE AGES during Jewish persecutions. It DOES appear to identify Yeshu with Jesus. Those stories are first appeared much later than the Talmud's references to a Yeshu ( two different Yeshu's btw) in the Talmud and Tosefta. I've seen anti-semites use a reference to this text and claim it is one of the Talmud and also claim it was written by rabbis of Jesus time! Because it first appears many hundreds of years later than the Talmud, it cannot be used to infer that the writers of the Talmuds intended either Yeshu who lived a long time apart from one another, to mean Jesus.

Most Jews haven't read the Talmud ( either the Babylonian or the Jerusalem Talmud) in entirety. There are 73 volumes in the Schottenstein edition of the Talmud.

Here is a little bit of information to help the truly curious lifted from a New York Times review on the above mentioned translation of the Babylonian Talmud.

The Babylonian Talmud is the record of the rabbinic arguments in the great academies of Babylonia (modern-day Iraq) between roughly C.E. 200 and 500 on laws governing daily blessings, holidays, marriage contracts, kosher slaughter, business transactions, torts, marital relations and dozens of other aspects of observant life. (There is also a shorter Jerusalem Talmud, covering debates among rabbis in ancient Palestine, which ArtScroll is about to publish, too.)

The Talmud, or oral law, includes the Mishnah, a six-part Hebrew compilation finished around C.E. 200, but in popular parlance Talmud usually refers to the 38 volumes of the Gemara, in which later rabbinic generations used the Mishnah's bare-bones argumentation as a springboard for more razor-sharp parsing of logic. The Gemara's volumes are known as tractates, with each page containing the text of the Babylonian debates in the center, surrounded by later commentaries.
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Answer 2

I never quite understood why some believe that the Babylonian Talmud even mentions Jesus. I could understand if it was the Jerusalem Talmud, but when the Babylonian Talmud was written during the Sassanid Empire when the state religion was Zoroastrian. Christianity was very small and would not have been a subject of much interest to the Talmud's authors.

Answer 3

I've never read the Talmud,i don't even know if there is an arabic version of it,but the quotes taken from it and published in other books are awful.In the "a History of The Jews" by Paul Johnson,he mentioned that the Talmud says about the Christ that he is in a Pool of Boiling Excerement.

Answer 4

The best part is when they claim they have actually read the Talmud like it is just one book.

Answer 5

That might be true, if you authoratatively spoke for all of Judaism, but you don't.

Nobody does.

And that's the whole problem these days.

Lots of Jews know exactly who Jesus is, and lots of Jews know to whom the Rabbis in the Talmud are referring.

It's not rocket science, you know.

Or maybe you don't know ...