How about these good old Americans?

Question

The jury heard emotional testimony from four victims and several other former workers at the hotel. The witnesses testified that the Farrells brought them to the United States with employment visas to work under an agreement that promised 40 hours of work a week at pay above the minimum wage. They hoped to earn money to send to their families back in the Philippines.

Once they arrived in South Dakota, however, the Farrells confiscated their visas and passports, made them sign inflated and ever-increasing debt contracts, and held them to work around the clock. Witnesses described working from 8 a.m. to midnight, then being forced to attend meetings at the hotel in which the Farrells threatened them with violence and berated them about their work and their supposed debts. The middle-of-the-night meetings lasted as long as six hours. One worker testified that she went without sleeping for up to five days in a row.

http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/newsreleases/articles/071108aberdeen.htm

Should all American's be held responsible for these people's criminal tendencies?

How is it anti American? Do you agree with this behavior or condone it?

It is an immigration issue. Just as any other issues brought up here. Does the fact Americans committed this crime change your stance on illegal activities?

Diane...Yes we are. And I'm proud to be an American citizen born and bred.

Wow...change of tune when it involves citizens. And I'm a Bimbo to boot. Thumbs up for disrespect. Only on yahoo. LOL

ERGOT...I wish I could give you 10 thumbs up. That WAS my intent.

Wintergi. ...No, but you can quit saying they're family values suck when most of them do have good family values and not all of them rape and murder. But many of you just LOVE those posts don't you? Not ALL people of ALL groups represent that entire group. Right?

Yoda...Those of you who say illegal I agree with. But those who say " How about this for those Mexican values" That ticks me off. I know many nice LEGAL Mexicans who do have good values. Those who say a generalized statement are demeaning them too. That I DON'T like no.

Answer 1

I htink I get yourpoint - that not all USA folk would behave this way, and if we realise that, then we should realise that applying labels to an entire group of people based on the behaviour of some members of that group is absurd. I agree, if that was your intent.

Answer 2

Actually we are being punished in some small degree. We are paying for court fees, police and various other charges. We deserve to pay such a punishment, if not more , since our collective community has looked away at these kind of crimes. Granted our punishment per person would end up in fraction of a penny per person, but there are other similar cases and ends up as a significant bill after a while. OUr country has created a situation where this type of activity is common place. I left a company like that, and it's a huge company. They hire legal Filipinos and force them to work 2 extra hours a day with out pay, and ask them to perform illegal and amoral activities. They do so because they know that in Filipino culture, the boss get what ever they want. Also they can send them home if they don't comply. It's horrble, and I hope there are criminal charges involved.

As a side note, imagine what illegal immigrants might be going through, when legal immigrants are abused in such fashion.

Answer 3

We have had 2 cases of this here. One was the owners of a mexican restaurant who was bringing illegals. He was putting them 20 to a house, working them long hours and always telling them how much money they owed him for allowing them to live and work. Finally got caught and got 15 years and all the illegals were deported. The other was a Chinese man doing basically the same thing but getting his relatives here illegally. He also got 15 years and fined $250.000 for tax evasion. These stories show why the people should come legally. Illegals have no recourse and are often afraid to report the abuses for fear of deportation.

Answer 4

I am in Southeast Asia right now it is a common practice in this area to promise people good paying jobs, and them imprisoning them into working for free, the ones you described are the lucky ones they worked in a hotel. Most people tricked that way end up in the sex trade all over the world. Many of the Trolls that reply negatively seem not to understand English, you stated once they arrived here, this family took their visas and passports. They did not come to this country as undocumented. This is not an uncommon practice in the United States. Many sweatshop are operated in the U.S. using slave labor.

Answer 5

No not ALL Americans should be held responsible. How about keeping the blame where it belongs. On the Farrells, the slave owners. The ones who violated what the united states stands for. Why would you want to punish all Americans? That's just plain stupid!!!

Answer 6

Well,looking the question and edits over. I see there's more 2 this than meets the eye. No I don't agree with those folks. I hope they go to jail for a long long time.

Dear tricks,don't take things so to heart. If people can't understand how inflammatory words hurt others they aren't worth bothering over. I understood you clearly. No these people don't represent all citizens as some illegals don't represent all illegals. Shame on anyone who called you names dear. Their jackass's.

Answer 7

The only thing separating humans from lower animals is our ability to reason. Most written law throughout history has been based on reason absent emotion to ensure our protections and encourage the best to be better, and the worst to behave be damned.

At any time in history under any written law in any place on earth, deviation from benevolent, reasonable laws has been to the detriment of the majority for whom those laws are written.

Illegal aliens, by their sheer numbers (combined with the fact that their entire existence here - every second of every day) receive an ongoing reward for defying that law that protects us. The govt has adopted a bizarre practice of permitting that defiance, serving only to weaken securities we took for granted for generations.

For us to look the other way because this couple is "American" would be no less an ambush against our collective safety than the government permitting this despicable defiance against them...both crimes are costed against those who fall under the jurisdiction of that law and, in our determination to pass a livable world on to our posterity, resolve, daily, to respect that hedge of protections.


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Answer 8

Once I heard that laws were made for fools, now I see what it meant....no wonder why all those idiots racists won't know that these laws were for them to get them confused!!!!!!!!like that dude or duddette called siufiufo and that other yoda...they probably masturbate too often 'cause their brains don't work evenly,

Answer 9

You say all Americans should be blamed for this, but I bet you're the first one to defend the illegals when someone tries to blame all of them for one of them killing someone while driving drunk

Answer 10

I don't know any American who would condone such an act. I don't know if you are an American, but if not you certainly have a pretty dim view of them. We have a few bad apples just like any other country, but the majority of Americans are fine upstanding people with compassion for their fellow man of any race or creed or color.