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Was Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, etc. STOLED land from the MEXICAN people

2007-11-13 09:48:39 · 33 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Immigration

Sorry silly me, taken, pinched, robbed, looted, NO stole

2007-11-13 09:58:24 · update #1

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Not stolen in the proper sense of the word, but unjustly tayen, yes.



Long story short:

Mexico allowed immigrants to settle Texas, with the condition of becoming mexican citizens and obeying Mexican law and mexican constitution. These settlers later rebelled and declared an Independence that was not always really granted. On top of that they took more land for their new republic than tthe land Texas originally had, They took all the way to the Rio Bravo and all the way up to what then was New Mexico, mexico never recognized this, but in spite of this, Texas joined The Union with all the land they so claimed to be texas, so Mexico crossed the Rio Bravo to stop them right at the Rio nueces where the historical and traditional limit of Texas was. This gave the perfect excuse to Mr Polk to invade Mexico and fulfill the "maniffest destiny" of the USA, which in this case, Mexico was on the way.
When The US troops took Mexico city, and mexico with the boot on the thraot, the US imposed on mexico the treaty of Guadalup Hidalgo, for a ridiculous amount of money to "purchase" all that land, euphemistically speaking.
If you read the journals, intellectuals's books, political criticism, etc...many in the US were absolutely opposed to mr Polk's campaign against a nation that had never attacked the USA and never planned to. But the truth is that the greed and desire to claim what they thought was theirs drove that givernment to disposses a people of their land which had been already liberated by fire and blood from the Spaniards, a land millions of mexicans died for, a land in which Slavery had already been abolished, and into which the US wanted to extend their slavery system.

60% of Mexico's population is Amerindian, and in those days that division was more marked, nowadays there is more mixxing, back then it wasn't It was mexicans fighting for a mexico that the spaniards had takend and pillaged from their ancestors: 400 years of Spain's colonial rule.

A real historical injustice, which is too late now to revert, but the truth will always be truth and a million lies repeated can not turn a lie into a truth.


I don't make this generation guilty nor I want this generation to pay for what their ancestors trully did, but I think that if we acknowledge this fact and we all can learn to live together in this land, this historical injustice will have meaning, and will have purpose, and we will find forgiveness, but up untill these days just as the spaniards treated the mexicans in their own land, many anglos continue to do so. the mexican will never disapear from this land, the mexican will always be here as a whitness, as a testimony and as a reminder of humility. I pray to God that the unjust xenophobia against them stops

2007-11-13 10:01:52 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 8

No they were not stolen from Mexico as many groups claim. Much of the land in question was ceded to the United States with the Treaty of Guadalupe, which ended the Mexican-American war in 1848. Texas on the other hand had won it's indipendance from Mexico and eventually was annexed by the United States.

2007-11-13 09:57:11 · answer #2 · answered by Tip 5 · 7 0

No it was stolen by invaders called Indians from whoever made the original cliff dwellings, medicine wheel, desert drawings, and Midwestern mounds.

Then Europeans appropriated these areas from those Indians as a result of conquering them in open warfare.

As far as the Mexican people claiming that we stole these lands from them and they are the real natives, I bet Geronimo would argue that if he still was around.

I do not recall ever hearing that the Apache or any other tribe considered Mexicans to be family.

2007-11-13 10:10:33 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

That land was never stolen from the Mexicans. In Texas, there was a war for the land, mainly because the Mexican government would not allow Texans to have represetatives in the Mexican government. Obviously taxation without representation in unfair and the Texans fought back. The Mexicans lost, therefore they lost the land. I have lived in Texas all my life and have heard this false case brought up lately and it really has no base. In a time where strength prevails, the Mexicans and Santa Anna LOST. Get over it.

2007-11-13 09:56:04 · answer #4 · answered by TexMan98 2 · 6 1

Mexico was just as tribally owned as all North and South America before Spain showed up. How was it conquered? The same way Mexico lost to the United States.

And times are a little different now. In the 1840's, Sana Anna's army was, for the most part, as well equipped as the U.S. His leadership and strategy snucked for wind, though, so he lost and lost and lost.

Mexico is every bit as Spanish as the United States is English as each is a break-away nation of its former possessor-state.

Therefore, claims by illegals that they are native to the continent is ludicrous. No less so than if any English-speaking person in the U.S. or Canada made the same claim.


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2007-11-13 10:05:27 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

NO!! All of North America was once occupied by Native Indians and it was either bought or stolen from them not just the Mexican people!! Most of the white people here come from other places such as England ,Scotland,Spain ,Italy,Holland,Germany......... Columbus conquered many places and just took what he wanted bringing with him diseases that the Native people couldn't fight.They wanted everything they could get out of the New Land and take it back to the powers that be. I don't know where you got the idea that the land was stolen only from the Mexican people!! Mexican people are just another type of Indian their were many different tribes my Great Grandmother was Sioux from North Dakota. Read the history books of all the battles with the white man trying to take their land they lost in case you didn't know that! Divide and conquer that's what happened!! I think there are people in the States that would disagree with me like they just settled there because the land was just there and they have many generations of families that have farmed or lived where they live now but before them it was Native land. It's normal for people to believe they did nothing wrong and they still believe it but their people did.Soo many innocent women and children were killed to make room for their ancestors they justified it by calling them savages.

2007-11-13 10:24:14 · answer #6 · answered by Polar Molar 7 · 1 2

You DID mean stolen.

No, it wasn't. After the USA beat Mexico in the war of 1846-1848 the United States purchased the land under the provisions of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

We beat them and then paid them 15 million for those lands (You do the conversion to todays dollars) and also absorbed 3 million dollars of their foreign debt.

Revisionist history doesn't work because the FACTS are out there for anyone and everyone to see.

2007-11-13 10:26:04 · answer #7 · answered by chuck_junior 7 · 5 1

Mexico itself was "stoled" land - most of the Western Hemisphere is "stoled" land by the Europeans.
It's really a moot subject now, borders are set up and new countries are well established.

2007-11-13 09:54:50 · answer #8 · answered by LeAnne 7 · 7 0

No the USA payed 15 million for the land. And it wasn't Mexican to begin with it was Native American land.

2007-11-13 14:06:42 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

No,it was bought and before it belonged to the mexicans it was the Native Americans land. Wanna guess how the mexicans got it from the Native Americans?

2007-11-13 13:22:40 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

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