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2007-11-13 05:26:10 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

So Jesussaves were does that tie in with Rev 1:1

2007-11-13 05:29:56 · update #1

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AT THIS point you might ask: ‘If the Trinity is not a Biblical teaching, how did it become a doctrine of so many churches’

Many think that it was formulated at the Council of Nicaea in 325 C.E.

That is not totally correct, however. The Council of Nicaea did assert that Christ was of the same substance as God, which laid the groundwork for later Trinitarian theology. But it did not establish the Trinity, for at that council there was no mention of the holy spirit as the third person of a triune Godhead.

Constantine’s Role at Nicaea

FOR many years, there had been much opposition on Biblical grounds to the developing idea that Jesus was God. To try to solve the dispute, Roman emperor Constantine summoned all bishops to Nicaea. About 300, a fraction of the total, actually attended.

Constantine was not a Christian. Supposedly, he converted later in life, but he was not baptized until he lay dying. Regarding him, Henry Chadwick says in The Early Church: “Constantine, like his father, worshipped the Unconquered Sun; . . . his conversion should not be interpreted as an inward experience of grace . . . It was a military matter. His comprehension of Christian doctrine was never very clear, but he was sure that victory in battle lay in the gift of the God of the Christians.”

What role did this unbaptized emperor play at the Council of Nicaea? The Encyclopædia Britannica relates: “Constantine himself presided, actively guiding the discussions, and personally proposed . . . the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council, ‘of one substance with the Father’ . . . Overawed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them much against their inclination.”

Hence, Constantine’s role was crucial. After two months of furious religious debate, this pagan politician intervened and decided in favor of those who said that Jesus was God. But why? Certainly not because of any Biblical conviction. “Constantine had basically no understanding whatsoever of the questions that were being asked in Greek theology,” says A Short History of Christian Doctrine. What he did understand was that religious division was a threat to his empire, and he wanted to solidify his domain.

None of the bishops at Nicaea promoted a Trinity, however. They decided only the nature of Jesus but not the role of the holy spirit. If a Trinity had been a clear Bible truth, should they not have proposed it at that time?

2007-11-13 05:31:47 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Trinity

Definition: The central doctrine of religions of Christendom. According to the Athanasian Creed, there are three divine Persons (the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost), each said to be eternal, each said to be almighty, none greater or less than another, each said to be God, and yet together being but one God. Other statements of the dogma emphasize that these three “Persons” are not separate and distinct individuals but are three modes in which the divine essence exists. Thus some Trinitarians emphasize their belief that Jesus Christ is God, or that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are Jehovah. Not a Bible teaching.

2007-11-13 05:31:23 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Do you mean by "cult doctrine" that it is false doctrine? If so, then yes, it is false doctrine. Not only does it not make sense, but it also makes Jesus a ventriloquist and a schizophrenic, based on the Bible account.

In latter days, continuing revelation has revealed much about the nature of God and our relationship with him.

2007-11-13 05:32:05 · answer #3 · answered by Open Heart Searchery 7 · 0 0

How about this:
You Get what you chase after
SO Chase After God
Forget the rest:
No need to worry about Dogma!!

PS a close relationship with God and He will reveal his heart to you. And if it sounds like Dogma its probably not from God

2007-11-13 05:33:37 · answer #4 · answered by Cappy 1 · 0 0

1 Jn 5:7 is proof and it is doctrine

2007-11-13 05:28:23 · answer #5 · answered by jesussaves 7 · 1 2

No, the concept of the trinity is mainstream christian doctorine. All branches thereof, Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant, share it.

2007-11-13 05:34:01 · answer #6 · answered by Stephen H 5 · 0 0

so do you deny, the Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit? thats just strange.

2007-11-13 05:37:15 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

An objective truth

2007-11-13 05:30:12 · answer #8 · answered by Gods child 6 · 1 1

The trinity is the truth.
Genesis 1:26 Then God said, Let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

2007-11-13 05:31:11 · answer #9 · answered by rikirailrd 4 · 0 2

no ...........shaking head
Matt 28:19
1 john 5.:7

2007-11-13 05:29:12 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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