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But there was a story made up about the fictional legendary hero Sun God Jesus who said, "Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's..."

But there is no historic mention of Jesus anywhere?

Jesus, the myth, turned water into wine, raised the dead, fed thousands with scraps, died on a cross and the dead saints rose from the grave after a big earthquake and a black sky and walked among the people and the Bible says that the fame of Him spread throughout the known world... yet...

in History - nothing. There should be tons of historical references to these amazing earth shattering things if they were true. It's no wonder that the first century Christians and Paul only spoke of "Christ" as only a spiritual philosophy and not an actual person!

When did the Catholics decide to personify Christ? and why?

Why do people blindly claim to "know" this myth? Is it just simple self-delusion? You know, wishful thinking?

Do facts matter anymore?

2007-11-13 04:21:53 · 23 answers · asked by John Galt 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Facts matter, try including a few. Did you know there are no records of Caesar or Pericles paying taxes?

BTW isn't "fictional legendary..." redundant?

Never let truth stand in the way of personal bias. Glad to see you live by that motto.

There are much better anti Christian attacks out there or was this simply an attempt at humor that I missed?

2007-11-13 04:28:58 · answer #1 · answered by chessale 5 · 1 1

Do other historical records mention Jesus? Yes!

Keep in mind that if all the documents we have from the first two centuries AD were collected and put on a bookshelf, they might take two feet of shelf space.

One of the best known references to Jesus is in Josephus's history titled Antiquities. (Flavius Josephus was born in AD 37 and died in AD 97).

Other ancient writers who mention Christ are Cornelius Tacitus (AD 55-120), Gaius Suetonius Tranquillas (secretary to Emperor Hadrian (AD 117-138), and Pliny the Younger who was a Roman author and administrator.

Writting in the year AD 221, Julius Africanus quotes from a history of the Eastern Mediterranean written in about AD 52 by Thallus. Julius Africanus writes concerning the time of Jesus' crucifixion::

"On the whole world there pressed a most fearful darkness; and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down. This darkness Thallus, in the third book of his History, calls, as appears to me without reason, an eclipse of the sun."*

In addition, the writings of opponents of Christianty such as Jews and Gnostics, confirm that Jesus was a real person. If they could, the best alternative for Christianity's enemies would have been to say Jesus never lived. But the evidence was too real and fresh--there were people still alive who knew Jesus or the Apostles. Their only alternative was to accept Jesus, but change his message.

The conclusion: the non-Christian writtings confirm that Jesus was a real person.

2007-11-13 04:32:50 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The individual thrives on religion to make up for the insecuritys in there life, and answer their 'unanswered' questions.

For example when you pray, there are 3 possible options Christians say: 1. you will get what you want , 2. you will get what you want in the future, 3. you will not get what you want.

The reasonable man knows these are the only physically possible options anyway, what a gimmick.

Jesus, is indeed historic, but one could say a historic 'myth'.

Speaking as a Catholic, I would advocate they personify Christ as, they believe that the spritual philosophy, touches the individual whereby, Christ is conveyed in every individual in some form, through their acts perhaps e.g. giving money to the poor or you could argue these are just moral values, but one may say that the bible provides so called 'moral values' and the supposed solution to problems, as stated earlier to cure 'insecurities'.

2007-11-13 04:32:19 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No, just like stories that get passed down and evolve each time their retold. I doubt anyone here will have factual answers to your literal questions. As much as some people may dislike my opinion, here it is:

If Jesus existed, Jesus was a con-man. The earth was flat, the sun revolved around the earth and Jesus walked on sandbars. You're correct. None of my history books ever recited or documented any history of Jesus existence. Whether this was overlooked because of religious reasons, who knows, but it is a interesting point you bring up.

2007-11-13 04:37:53 · answer #4 · answered by handlebar knocker 2 · 0 0

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2016-11-11 09:15:31 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I don't think Christians personify Christ as much as they have deified him, and that was done at Nicea in the 4th century. I think there may have been this guy who said some things, but the magic trick stuff is just public relations. Someone on R&S said, and it makes a lot of sense to me, that the miracle of the loaves and fishes was not that Christ made all this food out of nothing, it was that he got people to share what they had.

2007-11-13 04:25:51 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

There is a record of Jesus sending one of His apostles to pay taxes. You need to read the text more closely.

2007-11-13 04:28:07 · answer #7 · answered by zeal4him 5 · 0 0

I believe each persons beliefs are different. In his home land they say they have proof of his being here, u just have to go there and maybe find his tax preparer.

2007-11-13 04:26:13 · answer #8 · answered by MYthoughts 1 · 0 0

Those were the golden days when one didn't keep birth certificates, death certificates, tax returns etc.
A glass of good wine, a loaf of good bread------it is all that counted in those heavenly days.

2007-11-13 04:29:37 · answer #9 · answered by eematters 4 · 0 0

..... SILLY... RABBIT... TRICKS... ARE... FOR... " kids ! "

You Again.... FALSELY ASSUME... FACTS.... NOT IN EVIDENCE!

Jesus DID PAY TAXES.....!

(Matthew 17:24-to-27) And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?

(Mat 17:25) He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?

(Mat 17:26) Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.

(Mat 17:27) Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.

Thanks for NOT Asking ! RR

2007-11-13 04:26:57 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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