Wouldn't we be better suited to bring back our farmed out jobs than to blame and run off the Mexicans?

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I live among and around many people from Mexico. I've never asked them if they were legal or not. I simply know that they work extremely hard. I've seen them have babies and pay the hospitals in cash. I watch their children grow and their parents sacrifice, working day and night to ensure their children's future. They are workers of every sort and merchants to each other. Most of us wouldn't buy the goods they sell in their little markets. I also grew up with them on the border and saw exactly the same thing. I've worked along side them from dawn till dusk and defended our freedom and theirs in service to our country. We all came from somewhere else.
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Would you not agree that from an economic standpoint we'd be better suited to quit farming out our jobs to foriegn countries than to block the Mexicans from entering ours? Would you not agree its a much more productive use of our resources?

Rachel T you need to come down from that Ivory tower dear. Those gangsters, I will tell you are absolutely legal and documented US born Citizens.

Answer 1

Being hungry and looking for a way to feed your family are not crimes. Illegals come here to work for the season,so they can send money back home. Then they also go back home so they can do it all over again next year. They can earn almost a years wages in three or four months compared to what they get back home.
I recently read how a South Texas lettuce farmer had to take a $250,000 hit because he didn't have enough workers to pick his crop. He even admitted that illegals come to his farm every single year to work for him and once everything is picked and the workers are paid,they leave. I also read about the peach farmer in Washington State who also lost 85% of his crop because he was always getting raided by Immigration.
Where were the Americans who wanted jobs? Where were Bubba and Hank so they could bend their white @sses out in the hot blazing sun for $8.00 an hour? Most likely they were collecting that unemployment check because manual labor must be beneath them.

Answer 2

I would venture to guess that I've had as many positive experiences w/ Mexicans and Mexican Americans (both here and in Mexico) as you've had. I couldn't agree more that the vast majority of Mexicans I've encountered are honest, friendly and hard working...BUT SO WHAT??? THAT IS NOT THE POINT!! Even people we like MUST obey the law. While there are sincere HUMAN complexities to this issue...that's the bottom line!

The fact that you predicate your ENTIRE argument on a series of romanticized personal anecdotes demonstrates your inability to see this issue with any real clarity. You want so desperately to make this an issue of hatred or racism and not an issue of lawlessness. No matter how much we like our friends, relatives, co-workers, neighbors, they STILL must abide by the law!

Saying that, "We all came from somewhere else" is a huge cop out. We all did come from somewhere else...BUT...the immigrants you're referring to either:

-Were forced to come here.
-Came here prior to the advent of current immigration law. OR...
-FOLLOWED THE RULE OF LAW IN ORDER TO IMMIGRATE HERE!!

Also, your question about the best use of our resources seems duplicitous. These two issues are unrelated yet you're trying to suggest that American jobs being outsourced is somehow connected to illegal Mexican immigration...or that our resources can only be dedicated to one issue and not the other. This is a completely dishonest premise!

Your question is tantamount to asking, "Wouldn't it be better to find a cure for AIDS than to end hunger throughout the world?"....or.... "Wouldn't it be better to ensure a quality education for all children than to solve the homeless problem?" Working to reduce the number of jobs leaving America, has NOTHING to do with enforcing our laws and securing our borders...NOTHING!!!! The importance of both issues is undermined by attempting to suggest that this is an "either or" question!


Not all laws are good laws. If you think immigration law needs to be changed...work to change them. Otherwise... you're advocating lawlessness...which is far different than advocating change.

Answer 3

No, it really wouldn't. Expelling illegal aliens is the right thing to do, regardless of economic factors. Outsourcing of jobs is a matter of the global labor market functioning legally, like any form of free trade, it leads ultimately maximizes productivity in the global economy as a whole - which is ultimately good for everyone (though it certainly doesn't feel that way on an individual level, in the near term). The exploitation of migrant workers is a matter of an illegal black market for labor, that ultimately hurts everyone.

Of course, nothing stops us from doing both. Illegals should just be the higher priority. Both illegals and outsourcing take jobs from Americans and depress wages, but illegals also drain tax money in the form of social services, and put a strain on our infrastructure. Plus, of course, a large illegal population is the ideal place for criminals, terrorists, and other foreign undesireables to 'hide.'

Answer 4

Where do you get your stupid facts? Texas was responsible for 70% of all jobs created last year? Give me a break. And just to set the record straight, California doesn't even have the highest taxes in the country. They rank #10. Look it up.

Answer 5

These jobs are farmed out because big business and our government do not care about the working class citizens of our country. They care about the $$ and nothing else. That is why companies don't spend money on living wages, health insurance etc. Notice when big business cuts back the bottom and middle tier workers suffer and the top executives and corporate officers gets a multi million dollar bonus.

Answer 6

We farm out those jobs because labor is cheaper elsewhere. Mexicans working at US-owned factories are not making the middle class wages and benefits that Americans enjoyed at those same jobs. Would Americans be willing to work at, say, a Ford plant, making $4 an hour and no benefits? Obviously not, so it's basically impossible for those jobs to remain here, unless people are willing to pay $40k for an Escort.

Answer 7

WOW! You must know the ONLY illegals like that.
I've been in S. California for 40 years and I see my place of living going to $HIT!!!!!!!!!
Its sooo dangerous in some (and now most) of my communities. It looks like little Tijuana, so c'mon down and meet the real problem anytime. I guarantee you'll be down for change.

Boycott Home Depot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have no idea if they're legal or not and its plain stupid for you to say so. But feel free to stay in your brown tower my dear... I like you better there~Its with your people, its where you really belong. Take care now...really.

Answer 8

I agree with you that we should not be "farming out" jobs to other countries, but you are dead wrong about the illegals who cross our borders in the stealth of the night. They are criminals, no matter how hard they work, and must be treated as such!

Answer 9

Outsourcing and illegal immigration are different sides of the same coin paid to the rich at the expense of the rest of us.

Since their kids cost $10,000 per child per year to educate, even if they took no other services (and many do) they are costing our children their educations in overcrowded, illstaffed schools.

What about OUR people and THEIR future?

Answer 10

Yes we would be better off to quit out-sourcing our jobs. And no we would not be better off to keep allowing illegal immigration. If they come legally then they are welcome . But the illegals are not welcome.