If Christians maintain that we only follow the higher law of Christ and that the Mosais law is obsolete in it's entirety?
Last night I posed the question of why we no longer follow the commandent to keep the Sabbath day holy. I got tons of snotty replies, 80% from fellow Christians who insisted I was being judgemental. Some told me that Saturday is the actual Sabbath (so, do we keep Saturday holy?) but mostly because the law of the OT is now defunct and that we need not follow it.
I saw that we do need to follow it, but that's my opinion. Jesus' atonement took away the need for blood sacrifice, and in him the law was fulfilled (see Matt 5:17) but not made obsolete.
By the way, the restriction of eating pork and other unclean flesh, cutting the corners of the beard, and touching a woman while on her period are NOT part of the 10 Commandments, they were given by the Lord for health reasons (he cares about us in all things) or to symbolize the setting apart of his people.
2007-11-13
00:11:09
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And yes, CHrist said that Sabbath was created for man, meaning that we rest and refresh ourselves, not powershop on Sundays
2007-11-13
00:12:50 ·
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ps--Check out an excellent book by Pat Robertson called "The Ten Offenses," that discusses how the 10 C's should be applied to our modern lives
2007-11-13
00:21:48 ·
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Oooh, Mr Hoosier, such Christian communication from you--no wonder there are so many atheists in the world when there are such representations. I was refering to the "nice" Christian people who answered question last night!
2007-11-13
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I missed your question on keeping the Sabbath but I agree entirely with you. It was given as a day of rest right back at creation and is still valid today.
It is the only one of the 10 Commandments that starts with "Remember.."
I'm in England but I think it's a shame about the 10 commandments being removed.
2007-11-13 00:23:15
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answered by Don 5
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You are working under a number of false concepts. I'll try to untangle what you have stated here.
The old covenant is made up of the entirety of the laws listed at Sinai, with the ten being the core. This includes everything from sacrifices to circumcision. It was the "book of the law" containing all these laws that was sprinkled with blood, including the people that was ratified as the old covenant.
Second, this covenant is indeed obsolete:
2 Corinthians 3:11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
It was the old covenant that is done away, as you can discern from the context.
A Christian is one who has God's Spirit. Would one who has God in them be tempted to have other gods besides God? Of course not. This should help show how and why that covenant is obsolete for Christians.
The law is fulfilled not in the letter, but in the Spirit, and that Spirit is a Spirit of love. You don't honor you parents; you love your parents, despite whether they may have been bad parents, for example.
It is written by both Paul and James that love fulfills the law. This is in contrast to "keeping" the law which was merely a matter of complying with it. If someone who hated another refrained from killing the other, this does not make that person sinless, for the spirit of murder is there. One must love even their enemies.
Do you begin to comprehend?
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2007-11-13 01:24:08
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answered by Hogie 7
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Umm, in no way do Christians maintain that Mosaic law is obsolete hon, that sort of does away with the whole message of Jesus.
Jesus came to tell us that while the law is important, in order for it to be complete love has to rule over the law. Every message He gave, every parable He told, dealt with this same issue. The law does not work without love.
I don't know why anyone would get upset that the 10 Commandments were removed. I'm a Christian and I have no problem with it; if it offends others then take it down, it's just a symbolic thing so it is unimportant.
2007-11-13 00:18:58
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answered by arewethereyet 7
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There is things in the OT that still pertains to our day, like for instance prophecies, But as far as the 10 commandments, Jesus Christ is the END of the law(Romans 10:4) & yes in the OT the sabbath was kept from 6:00PM Friday to 6:00PM Saturday, & those that still try to keep these days as a holy day, fail to keep all other things that went with the law of the sabbath, No one is to cook any meals on the sabbath, & so on. Now Once we Come to Jesus, we have enter into his rest by the baptism of the Holy Ghost, & the Apostle Paul told the Christians concerning tithing, In 1st Cor. 16:1-2, He tells all Gentile Christians to come on the first day of the week to pay your tithes. And also in Colossians 2:16 Apostle Paul said let no man Judge you in meats, or holydays, or in the sabbath days 17: Which are a shadow of things to come.
2007-11-13 00:26:33
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answered by Anonymous
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Remove the ten commandments and you remove the basis of all law. Remove the basis then whats the point of having any law at all. What in your opinion is wrong to do. Is killing someone wrong? Is stealing another persons things wrong? Is cheating on your sexual partner wrong? Is lying under oath in court wrong? All of these are covered in the ten commandments. If these things I mentioned are indeed wrong then why isnt the rest of it wrong.
As for the Sabbath can anybody say for sure that Saturday is the Sabbath. The calender as been changed and adjusted for all kinds of mistakes who knows for sure. I practice my seventh day on Sunday. I believe giving the Lord the first day but then again I have no idea which day is actually first or last that seems arbitrary to me.
2007-11-13 01:00:15
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answered by Tommiecat 7
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You are correct that Christians are getting confused about the 10 Commandments. I think the problem is that they see so many problems in the US that are due to lack of faith in God and specifically due to people not being committed to Jesus. Removal of the 10 Commandments statue was sort of symbolic of the increased lack of faith in God in this country, so it was a very incendive event.
You are correct, though, that Jesus is the fulfillment of the Law and that we need no longer worry about the 10 Commandments but only need to obey Jesus and his command to love one another. And most Christians would agree with that statement, but the symbol of the 10 Commandments still has a lot of meaning for people.
2007-11-13 00:24:30
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answered by William D 5
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The case you refer to, which led to the removal of Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, was a blatantly political act on Moore's part as preparation to run for governor (he lost in the primary after embarrassing the state).
You are correct about Mosaic law, of course, and the vote pandering by Moore disgusted even the Christian-majority state of Alabama.
And no, the United States was founded upon principles of the Scottish Englightenment. Read up on the history of the Constitution on an unbiased site and you will see for yourself.
2007-11-13 00:17:11
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answered by Anonymous
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" I didn't come to do away with the law, but to fulfill" . _ Jesus
Our Civil Law in Western civilization is built upon the 10 Commandments...we might as well do away with civil law altogether...what hypocrisy.
" We stake the whole future history of this nation upon the ablility of its people to govern & control themselves according to the 10 Commandments". -- James Madison ...Chief Archetect of the US Constistution and 2nd Pres. of US.
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2007-11-13 00:17:27
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answered by Anonymous
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Christianity changed the original 10 commandments!
Jesus replaced "Honor thy father and thy mother" for "Unless you hate your father and yourmother..."
The Sabbath was switched to Sunday!
"Thou shalt not covert" was loopholed into "COVET the gifts..."
and so on...
2007-11-13 00:31:24
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answered by Anonymous
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