are you a vegetarian or vegan but hate peta?

Question

peta are quite a far out group for animal rights

but they are not all they seem to be.

http://www.consumerfreedom.com/downloads/reference/docs/060616_petaFreezer.pdf

now why would they need a freezer like this?

this a comic that they give to children to read!
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/downloads/reference/docs/040726_mommykills.pdf

this is what peta does to animals that cannot be adopted beware this is graphic.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/shockingphotos.cfm

and where do they get the blood they throw on people?

i don't eat animal and i hate it when they are abused but i am never going to join peta!

Answer 1

Yes I am but I don’t hate them. Anyone who’s worked with animals knows the various reasons there are for having to put them down. None of these reports explain any of them.

Walk-in freezers that are large enough to hold corpses can be used for various reasons. Since I haven’t seen PETA’s use for it, I can’t tell you why they have one. If they use it for freezing animal remains though, there are so many different reasons for this you can’t begin to jump to conclusions.

- One reason could be to preserve the evidence (of abuse) since bodies tend to decay over time.

- Another could be to preserve the remains for medical testing.

- One more could be to preserve the animals they have to euthanize so they can send them in for a mass burial/cremation.

You can’t just look at this and assume they kill the animals for fun and hide the remains here.

If you’re going to judge PETA don’t do it by listening to a group such as www.petakillsanimals.com. They’re obviously biased against them and nothing printed on their site will ever have an objective view. PETA Kills Animals is a project of The Center For Consumer Freedom. This was taken directly off their Web site:

“The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit coalition of restaurants, food companies, and consumers working together to promote personal responsibility and protect consumer choices.

The growing cabal of "food cops," health care enforcers, militant activists, meddling bureaucrats, and violent radicals who think they know "what's best for you" are pushing against our basic freedoms. We're here to push back.”

Obviously, this isn’t a very objective 3rd party group. Their supporters come from industries that would stand to lose millions of $$ and go out of business if any of PETA’s efforts were successful. They also make it fairly clear that they don’t want anyone interfering with their business of making money – “meddling bureaucrats”.

Where would Outback Steakhouse be if people agreed with PETA and stopped eating meat? What would happen to Pizza Hut if people agreed with PETA and became vegan not eating any animal products including cheese – a sauce pizza… yum.

Just to add one more thing. Ever wonder why a group devoted to protecting “consumer’s freedoms” would even bother discussing abandoned animals? What do adoptable animals have to do with consumers? Everything they say seems more like a personal attack just to protect their investors’ interests against a group that could threaten their business.

Know your sources before you buy into their propaganda.

Answer 2

Hey foundry, don't use links from the CCF or petakillsanimals..
No one who supports Peta will believe them anyway.. Just use Peta's own site.. Plenty of good stuff there anyhow.. I gave you a bunch of good links you can use right from them in your other question...
The hard part with Peta, is that I really want to respect other people's beliefs... I really do.. BUT, at the same time I've found that 9 out of 10 people who support them have no idea what they're about... They've been duped into believing something else.. We had an ad running on our news during that whole Michael Vick trial about Peta asking for donations "to help Pit bulls everywhere." That really burns my biscuits because PETA's stance on Pitbulls is to support bans and gradual eradication.. http://www.peta.org/about/hottopic007.asp
They do say they only want a ban if dogs are grandfathered in, but, what that means is if someone has a rough time financially, they can't find their dog another home, they have to have it killed..
Ah well, enough for me... That stuff burns me up..
There are plenty of organizations that do great things for animals.. Your local animal shelter is one of those places.. When you support an organization, you support ALL of it's legislation, not just the parts you like..

Answer 3

I don't hate PETA.. It's an organisation with an initially well meaning agenda. However, it's failure to gain wide acceptance has forced it's most vocal and radical members/officers to take extreme measures which has done more harm than good for it's cause. I personally know of moderate pro animal folks who are turned off by PETAs tactics. I am an omni. But I used to do a lot of volunteer work for shelters and was at one time a financial contributor to Greenpeace. (before business obligations took up most of my time). I might one day go back to those worthy causes and activities but I will never ever support PETA.

PS: Those who complain about anti-PETA propaganda should consider the fact that PETA relies heavily on extremely radical propaganda as well to promote it's own biased agenda. What' good for the goose, is good for the gander.

Answer 4

I can't say that I hate PETA, but I don't support them. I think of them more as a necessary evil. The meat industry has their propaganda, so PETA is there to somewhat balance it out. I do wish they'd get a grip though.. there are better ways to educate people about animal cruelty than the tactics they use.

Answer 5

I really don't think PETA is "far out" for staging protests and exercising their right to free speech. Ooh, controversial! What do you think about the ALF, which actually BREAKS INTO facilities where animals are tortured and rescues them? They must be TERRORISTS to you.

I"m glad they tell kids about what their parents do, since it's the truth.

All shelters euthanize animals. I'd much prefer that they be euthanized than skinned alive for their coat or ripped apart in a dog fight.

They don't throw blood on people. It is paint.

Answer 6

I don't hate PETA but I do find some of their ads and campaigns rather distasteful. For the most part, demonizing people that eat meat or wear fur is not going to win converts. And throwing paint on someone wearing fur or otherwise destroying fur is really bad. It's wasteful.

Answer 7

PETA has put me off becoming a veg*n, my bother is a veg*n. But being a research scientist (that has nothing to do with animals) a lot of there scientific data and information is just bias or untrustworthy. Seeing the way that other followers behave and quote them like it was the bible just simply put me off.

Answer 8

The only people who say bad things about peta are those trying to battle against them. The amount of propaganda peta puts out is so so so so very small and ineffectual compared to the billions upon billions of dollars going into the propaganda they are up against. They are just one little non-profit org up against some companies that are rich beyond comprehension to the point that their propaganda is in every school, on TV, radio, newspapers, .... they fill our daily lives with their propaganda, and I rarely hear about peta.

The blood they use is not real blood of course.
I think you have allowed the anti-peta propaganda get the better of you. Greenpeace has used the exact same attention getting stunts to get their message across -- it's the only way to get any kind of media coverage and they've been proving this for 30 years. Crazy stunts, nudity, protests where authorities drag people away... you'll never see a peaceful non-eventful protest on the news. Hell, once 30,000 people in NY once flooded the streets to protest against cigarette companies... didn't make the news... although well known journalists were seen on video as onlookers.

Answer 9

It's not okay if PeTA euthanizes animals but it's perfectly fine when an animal control, SPCA or Humane Society does it?

Where is the logic in that?

Answer 10

OMG i didn't know that PETA is terrible.