I am looking for the earliest explicit patristic witnesse (year, author, book, chapter/paragraph) for...
(1) Mary's ever virginity
(2) Mary being free from personal sin
(3) a prayer being offered to a saint
(4) the lawfulness of, or command to, paint and venerate icons
(5) mandatory celibacy of bishops.
2007-11-11 23:48:23 · 6 answers · asked by seforjes 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Only catholics believe this nonsense. Catholics are not saved and are not Christians, because catholics believe a false gospel of works that leads to eternal hell (Galatians 1).
Mary was a sinner that would have gone to eternal hell if she didn't believe in Jesus as we do. Mary isn't a virgin anymore, as she had relations with Joseph and had many children with Joseph. Mary isn't a "co-redemptrix" and she can't hear anyone "praying" to her.
2007-11-11 23:56:47 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
(1) Mary didn't stay a virgin, she had a husband and other kids after Jesus. It even mentions at one point that people tell Jesus "Your mother and brothers are outside".
(2) Mary wasn't free from personal sin, but she was "kept pure" by the fact that she was raised by the temple as a virgin.
(3) Nowhere does it say we should pray to a saint.
(4) It is against God's desire for us to venerate an icon of any kind. He wants our worship to be of Him, not a statute.
(5) The mandatory celibacy is not a part of the Bible.
2007-11-11 23:55:00 · answer #2 · answered by arewethereyet 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
!cor 4:6,do not exceed on what is written,i can tell you that verse in the bible that tells mary did not remain ever virgin,no man is free or free in committing sin,a prayer being offered to a saint is nonsense and you will just commit sin.Read Hab 2:18-19,mandatory celibacy of bishop is also not biblical
2007-11-12 00:01:03 · answer #3 · answered by ace nathaniel 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
"The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son" - Matthew 1
2007-11-11 23:57:22 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
it is not biblical.....so you have to go to mens writing to find it
didnt come from God
2007-11-11 23:51:33 · answer #5 · answered by jesussaves 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
http://home.inreach.com/~bstanley/how.htm
2007-11-12 00:13:15 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋