Watch the videos first before commenting:
http://www.truth911.net
http://www.911weknow.com
http://www.seeloosechange.com
http://www.belowgroundsurface.org
And go to http://www.youtube.com and search for movies
using the keywords:
controlled demolition wtc
molten metal wtc
inside job wtc
Look at the strong evidence of molten metal that was created
on 9/11 - and the fact that it is IMPOSSIBLE for open air fuel
fires to create molten steel or molten aluminium (just from the
jet fuel fires alone), because there is simply not enough O2,
oxygen, in open air, to get fire temperatures above the melting
point of aluminium (about 550-600 C). Also, watch the 9/11
Mysteries movie, and you will see yellow-orange hot molten
steel (not molten aluminium, which is silvery grey) pouring out
of the South Tower, just minutes before it collapses!
That's over 200,000 tons of steel losing ALL its strength at free
fall collapse speed; most of it was not even on fire!
2007-11-11
07:08:03
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Anonymous
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Some more engineering FACTS that
cannot be changed or altered by the
mass media or deceptive liars:
Melting temperature of steel / iron = 1532 C, or
around 2800 F
Temperature of open air fuel fire = under 250 C.
FACTS:
1. A metal object will never get hotter than its primary heat source, and it actually dissipates or conducts heat energy to cooler neighbouring metal objects.
2. The pistons in your internal combustion engine are made of steel (iron+carbon) and are always exposed to fuel combustions, but they do not MELT and go all soft and weak.
3. Aluminium and steel frying pans are exposed to air fires all the time (gas stove, barbeque flames, open camp fires), and if open air is the only source of oxygen, they DO NOT MELT or get significantly weak or rubbery, like melted cheese.
4. The worst thing that can happen to a metal when exposed to temperatures, just below its melting point, is it behaves like weak, flaccid, limp, rubbery plastic. It wouldn't explode
2007-11-11
07:15:19 ·
update #1
Go ahead and try it yourself! Try to
melt some aluminium foil in a jet fuel or
a kerosene fuel open air fire!
Go ahead. Start an air fire by burning
kerosene in a metal tray. Then put
aluminium foil into the flames, and see
if you end up with liquid aluminium
dripping off the solid... The melting point
of aluminium is about 550 C. Try it!
Don't believe me, just believe your own
eyes.
Then try to melt your steel cooking pots
and pans with that same jet fuel, or
kerosene fire. See if you can get it
glowing red, orange, or white hot, or
even create liquid molten iron ! Try it!
Ground zero stayed red hot at
temperatures well above 600 C for up
to 8 weeks after 9/11. (hotter than normal air fires)
Firefighters were pumping in lots of
water into the basements of all 3 WTC
buildings FOR WEEKS just to cool
down all the giant pools of molten steel!
You owe it to yourself to find out how
so much molten steel ended up in the
basements of WTC 1, 2 & 7.
2007-11-11
07:44:20 ·
update #2
Here is a site that is related. I blows away the myths behind what happened at the MacArthur Maze in oakland on 4/29.
It is only the second case in history where fire melted steel!! See a ton scientific stuff!!!!
Enjoy
2007-11-11 09:00:56
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answered by Anonymous
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Please consider, if you assume that the molten metal is actually structural steel and not the aluminum cladding and a heterogeneous mixture of airplane, furniture and other building materials - then now you must consider just how much alleged thermal explosives and metal cutting demolition straps must have been necessary to cause that much molten steel. It becomes clear that this hypothesis soon becomes virtually impossible in an occupied building without anyone noticing the extensive interior demolition that would necessarily be required to completely strip the insulation and wrap the steel girders with thermite or a similar oxidizing agent.
The heat and physical damage necessary to cause the steel structure to fatigue and fail has been explained thoroughly by experts and scientists from all over the globe. The energy and heat dissipated by the collapsing floors alone is almost inconceivable.
Also consider these facts:
The planes weighed approximately 274,000 pounds (137 tons) each - the North tower was hit at approximately 470 mph and the South Tower at 590 mph.Each plane banked steeply taking out several stories (North Tower at floors 91-98 and the South tower floors 78-84) Check out the videos - the first plane slammed damned near through the entire width of the tower.
You should not allow yourself to be taken in by the grossly oversimplified conclusions and bogus science presented in the links you provided. The valid and verifiable truth is a little more complex - but it is the valid and verifiable proof none the less.
2007-11-11 07:45:36
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answered by LeAnne 7
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The simplest way of dispelling this craziness is asking two simple questions where were they hiding all of the explosives and when did they move them there.
I work with explosives on a regular/daily basis and frankly there are somethings that people just don't get understand. Firstly everyone that thinks that fuel can't explode or burn very hot should research a bomb called a FAE Fuel Air Explosive. Basically spray the fuel into the air and then ignite it. The Result is a giant BANG. Secondly 1.25 lbs. of C-4 is roughly 12.5"x 2"x 1". In order to break a single piece of steel rebar without any concrete around it you'd need a single block of C-4 (1.25lbs). So in order to bring down a massive building without drilling into all of the concrete beams (which is how professional demolition is done) one would need an extremely large amount of explosives in order to effect those buildings. Which brings me back to my original comment of where in the heck were they hiding all of it? Was it all in some people's desks? I dare to think that people would have noticed the explosives back behind their files. How did they bring in the Ton of explosives to bring down the building without anyone noticing all of the Crates marked c-4 or Semtex or TNT?
2007-11-11 09:04:57
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answered by Ronald B 1
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I just stumbled across this 9/11 conspiracy stuff, and was very comforted to see that most responders to your outrageous claims were common, everyday people who understand simple truths, like maybe the towers fell because two jumbo jets crashed into them and not some massive governmental conspiracy that has enough money and power and time and whatever else they would need to stage the whole thing for the purpose of ..........what ?
2007-11-14 17:20:51
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answered by Why not the truth 2
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All your points can be completely answered as follows;
1. It’s unclear if workers found molten metal. But even if they did, it was probably melted aluminum.
However, there is definitely no reliable source that says molten STEEL was found. For example:
QUOTE “NIST concluded that the source of the molten material was aluminum alloys from the aircraft”
From Point 11 in
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
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QUOTE “In no instance did NIST report that steel in the WTC towers melted due to the fires. The melting point of steel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius”
-From Point 7 in
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
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In addition, photographs of supposed melted metal were shown to Emertius Professor of Metallurgic Engineering at Lehigh University, Alan Pense, who says, “The photographs shown to support melting steel are, to me, unconvincing…or show materials that appear to be other than steel. One of the photos appears to me to be mostly of glass with unmelted steel rods in it.” (Pop Mech book, p 41). Many other experts say the same thing.
2. NIST concluded that the flowing, orange material coming from the Towers was melted aluminum or plastic mixed with burning material.
Pure liquid aluminum would be expected to appear silvery. However, the molten metal was very likely mixed with large amounts of hot, partially burned, solid organic materials (e.g., furniture, carpets, partitions and computers) which can display an orange glow, much like logs burning in a fireplace.
The apparent color also would have been affected by slag formation on the surface.
From NIST website, point 11
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
3. Actually, an EMPTY aluminum frying pan will burn through if left on a stove on high. That’s aluminum melting. The melting point of aluminum is 660 deg C, which is much lower than ordinary building fires (about 1000 deg C)
4. Ground zero stayed burning and hot for weeks, yes. “Red hot” like in molten iron, no. That’s a made-up “fact.” And there was definitely no “giant pools of molten steel” at ground zero.
2007-11-11 10:00:52
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answered by Anonymous
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I love these questions. I love the fact that people assume that fires are only about 800 degrees or so. Yeah!
We conducted a little experiment the other night when we were burning excess cardboard boxes at work. We have one of those little laser pointer thermostat guns that measures well into the 2000 degree range. We measured the glowing portion of the burn barrel and it was wavering between 1200 and 1600 degrees depending on how much cardboard we dropped in.
Also, did you know that there is an enormous difference between a burn and an explosion? During all of your reading did you happen to see that under explosive pressure and ultra high temps aluminum can actually vaporize? Yes, I said vaporize. Like in the "poof" kind of vaporize. I have a video of an F-4 Phantom barreling into a 10ft thick concrete wall with explosive armor protection basically disappear into nothing but fire. It was pretty cool actually.
Physics are laws, but wacky things happen under enormous pressures and tempratures. Trust me.
2007-11-11 07:39:29
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answered by theGODwatcher_ 3
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In one breath the libs bash president bush saying he's a total moron who can't string a sentence together. In the next breath they're giving him credit for pulling off the most fiendishly clever conspiracy known to man...... *sigh*
2007-11-13 21:07:40
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answered by Anonymous
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We are clearly not getting the truth from the United States administration or major media about 9/11 and many other important issues. Professor Steven Jones provides convincing evidence about that any qualified engineer can verify. The opposition engineering opinion obfuscates.
Major media news is a slick and convincing propaganda machine for monied interests in the private and public sectors.
2007-11-11 08:05:34
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answered by Skeptic 7
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The steel didn't have to melt. It just had to weaken to the point that it could no longer support the weight it was intended to. After that it's like domino's. The combination of additional weight and sheer force of the upper floors landing on the lower floors began a chain reaction that couldn't be stopped.
The structural engineer who worked on the WTC when it was built doesn't have a problem with this scenario. If you tell me that he has changed his opinion then I will listen. Until then I'll stick with the opinion of someone who knows that building better than anybody.
2007-11-11 07:17:26
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answered by Anonymous
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