Atheists: What is the probability of a single celled organism forming on it's own?

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Also:
With that probability in mind, what is the probability of it mutating into every known organism on earth, including humans?

Being honest with yourself, would it be crazy to consider the idea that an all powerful God made it happen?

If there is no God, where did the stuff that we are made of come from? And where did the stuff that made that stuff come from? Is it absurd to believe in a God outside of space and time, that doesn't "need" to have a beginning, or have something create Him?

Please answer honestly and respectfully! Not all Christian's are as moronic as the majority portray us as....

Answer 1

If it was created, why would you assume your God created it when other religions' creation stories predate the Bible?

Yes, I think it would be quite crazy for me to explain away anything I couldn't understand by saying God did it.

Answer 2

Do we have to know how it happened if we know it did? Did we understand how the Sun provided light befor we knew of light?

Did an all powerful God doit all? Depends on perspective.

Christians believe in God, but admittedly (sometimes) know he is not understood.

Can a flea really understand a dog? I think not.

Can mankind understand all life? probably not.

Can a grain of sand understand the beach? not likely.

Can mankind be even close to understanding Nature, the Universe, God, or our creation? I doubt it!

There is a certain reasoning to what you are saying, and it is a consideration. The only thing that we can really state as fact is that we don't know.

I am neither an athiest or a Christian, and often it is not scknowledged that there are other beliefs that have some explainations too. Are they any less valid?

Answer 3

Really? Then why are you asking such a silly question?

Let me guess - you assume the 'tornado in a scrapyard' view of how abiogenesis works, right? One in which this hypothetical cell is composed of N proteins, and the chance of it forming is therefore the product of the chances of each protein forming - where each protein is assumed to be the product of each of its component atoms falling into the right place etc. etc. etc.

No - you wouldn't think that, because you're not a moron, and you have a little background knowledge. You know the difference between the odds of winning the lottery - 50 million or so to one - and the odds that the lottery will be won - usually greater than 1:1.

So you also know that the 'first cell' was certainly NOT the first reproducing structure on Earth, and that that honour probably goes to a far simpler chemical. The exact nature of this self-catalysing chemical - which may not even have been a biochemical - may never be known, but it was the replicating substrate of replicating RNA sequences, which lead to the start of 'RNA World'.

RNA World may have persisted for hundreds of millions of years - because even naked RNA is able to replicate. Eventually, however, DNA took over the function of data storage because of its improved robustness and double-redundancy.

But the you know all of this, because you're not just a moron trying to score points with an ill-thought-out question, and you've already read up on Abiogenesis, and we need not waste anymore time.

The chance, then - to answer your question - is 100%: because it happened, and we're its descendants.

CD

Answer 4

The early Earth was very different from the world known today. There were no oceans or oxygen in the atmosphere. It was constantly being bombarded by planetoids and other material left over from the Big Bang and the formation of the Solar system. This bombardment along with heat from radioactive breakdown caused the planet at this stage to be fully molten.

Thus, heavier elements sank to the center and lighter elements floated to the top, producing the layered structure of the Earth as seen today and also setting up Earth's magnetic field. Earth's early atmosphere would have probably comprised of surrounding material from solar nebula, light gases like Hydrogen and Helium, but solar wind and the Earth's own heat would have driven all of this off.

All of this changed when the Earth reached about 40% of its present day size. Gravitational attraction allowed the retention of an atmosphere which included water. Temperatures decreased and the crust of the planet was accumulated on a solid surface within 150 million years or so, about 4.8 billion years ago. Oceans began forming about 4.2 billion years ago, due to the planet's cooling, clouds formed, and it began to rain, giving rise to oceans over a period of about 750 million years.

The new atmosphere probably contained ammonia, methane, water vapor, carbon dioxide, and nitrogen.

As for origin of life, research this one yourself, it would take ages to explain.

As for how this one common ancestor can give rise to so many separate lineages, various mutations in the self-replications of RNA in early bacteria would give rise to mutations that would accumulate until there could be considered new species. Rinse, lather, repeat.

Answer 5

So let me get this straight...in an infinitely large universe, over billions of years, you think it's impossible that the conditions for the very most basic type of life to form and evolve over even more time into what we know today, in spite of all the research that's being done that shows exactly that?

Yet you think it's probable that an omnipotent male (you do refer to it as "Him") invisible supernatural being which is somehow an exception to all the natural rules you just brought up just spoke it into existence? Given that you refer to it as "Him" I take it you're a christian, which means you also believe that this being impregnated a virgin 2000 years back, who had a son who was also god, and went around performing miracles and preaching, got executed, died, and came back from the dead three days later, to float into the sky forty days after that? And all because some old book says so and you believe really, really hard?

...Seriously?

You probably need to re-evaluate your usage of the terms "crazy" and "absurd".

Answer 6

What you don't realise is that when you bring in God you just move the problems back a step. I think it is easier to believe that a single celled organism came about over tine from a build up of ever more complex protein chains. Than an omnipotent God made it just by saying so.

Answer 7

Small but obviously possible since that is what did happen. You make a wrong assumption in thinking that cell just 'popped' in to existance. Abiogenesis and the evolution of life that followed was a process hundreds of millions of years in the making. It seems for christians that is to complex for them, they want simple answers their minds can understand so an all powerful, invisible, sky daddy makes more sense.

Answer 8

Probability doesn't matter when it happens. I mean, what are the chances that the Earth is where it is in its orbit right now and not one nanometer closer to the sun? The odds are literally astronomical to think that the Earth would be right here right now, and you're a fool for thinking that it is because the odds are so high against it.
See the problem yet?

Answer 9

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Answer 10

In 1985 in France scientists succeeded in creating life from a test tube.