Why do Mormons claim to be bashed and hated when?

Question

Joseph Smith claimed God told him all the Christian churches are corrupt and their creeds abomintaitons (Joseph Smith history 1:19 B.H Roberts said "Orthodox Chriistian views are Pagan rather than Christian (Mormon doctrine of deity by B.H. Roberts) Brigham Young said " I saw all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" Brigham Young JD 8 :199 John Taylor said "What are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute best". (John Taylor, JD 13:225) Bruce r. Mckonkie said "believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls (Bruce Mckonkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.177) So why do they not interpret these sayings as bashing or hate?

Actually Wooly I know a fair amount about the Mormon church from their own history and from historical records. Yes they were threatened and even attacked but much of this they brought upon themselves. When they went to these new states they were delaing with rough frontier people who they had a habit of referring to as gentiles and told them how God was going to tke their land and give it to the Mormons. The froontier people were not the type to put up with relgious extremism and they did begin to fear the Mormons as they saw their numbers swelling and thougth it was only a mtter of time before their numbers would surpass their own and they would be at the mercy of the law being run by Mormons. It didn't help tht Joseph Smith also started his own anti-banking company and started printing money before getting aprovel from the federal government. When the approval was refused he kept printing money but soon it was found to be next to worthless and Joseph Smith was wanted for fraud.

The problem Princess Catti-Brie is I don't don't feel that strong disagreement on either side of the issue means hate. I feel no hatred whatsoever towards Mormon people and in the cases of the ones I met they were pleasant enough. I think it is nothing more than a pr move in order to get people to not check the information out for themselves by claiming "thats just hate or anti-mormon. There are many non religious sources people can check out to see if the information I provide is innacurate but getting them to do it especially Mormons is like pulling teeth. I can name plenty of instnces where the Mormon church has told it's own people out right falsheoods in light of clear contradictory evidence. Example the claim Professor Anthon pronounced the writings he was shown as authentic even though he worte an angry reponse claiming he never said anything like that.

Reference Howe, 270-272 online at Solomonspalding.com/docs/1834howf.htm#pg270 Another example is June 30,1835 a travelling exhibitor arrived in Kirtland Ohio with four Egyption mummies and some papyrus scrolls. At that time no scholar was able to translate Eygyptian writings. Members of Smith's church knew Mosiah 8:15 which said a seer who was gifted by God with the ability to translate all records of an ancient date. So they pooled their money and bought the entire exhibit for $2400. Smiths followeres weren't dissapointed. According to Smith the scrolls weren't only ancient but they were penned in none other than Abraham, and Joseph the son of Jacob. The scrolls were first published in Times and Seasons March 1842. All schlars since then have said this is nonsense including A.H Sayce W.M Flinders Petrie, James h Breasted, Dr. Athur C. Mace, Professor S.A.b Mercer. Mormons simply climed while these were not the original documents. The originals were found in 1967 in a storage bin

in the New York Metropolitan Museum of art. Eygyptologists and religion scholars hailed the discovery. Unfortunately for the Mormons, careful examination of the scrolls vindicated the LDS church critics, not Joseph Smith. The texts were Egyption funeral scrolls belonging to the book of breathings and the Book of the Dead. To date numerous books have been written explaining the inaacuraet information, mistranslated texts, and erroneously interpeted drawings associated with Smiths bok of Abraham. That Utah Mormon leaders would continue to endorse the book of Abraham in the face of the evidence is almost beyond belief.

Edit to Princess catti-Brie. I don't doubt that occurances of hate or bashing occur to somemembers of your church. That preety much happens to all churches or in a broader sense all grops to some degree. I am specifically referring to questioning or challenging docrtrines and beliefs. Example when I spoke with a couple of Mormon gentlemen amonth ago as I walked my dog arund the river I mentioned a few of my problems and gave them as best of reference as I could remember. They simply told me I shouldn't waste my time reading anti-Mormon proaganda by people who don't like them. My problem is that you won't know if it is propaganda or not unless you examine it for yourself. They then told me that they believed in uplifting people which is when I mentioned Jospeh Smith's revleation about all the Christian churches being wrong and their creeds abominations. I asked themif they considered that uplifting.One of them was honest enogh to admit not really.

Mormon 4 I give sources for what I say and mosttly from your own Mormon leaders. You seem to be painfully unaware of the deceptivenss of their answers. The sad truth is you believe the glossed over image of what they want you to believe. Consider the former LDS church historian Leonard J. Addington, "from it's inception the church of Jesus Christ of LDS has sought to leave an accurate and complete record of it's history. But what is routinely presented by the church as official history has much more in common with well crafted myths designed to tell uplifting stories aboutabout a specific LDS hero or set of heros. It produces faith in church members, but bears little resemblance to historical fact. In 1999 francis Nelson Henderson a long time Mormon left the church becuase his trust had been violated byLDS leaders becuase of their disreputable take on history. He wrote Church policy is that the only Mormon history told should be faith promoting history which conceals controversies

and difficulties of the Mormon past and present...A policy of telling re-telling changing or witholding information, is willfull maniplation of my ongoing right to make an informed choice. (Founding member of Comtel) truth and mis-truth in Mormon history author B. Carmon Hardy writes "apart from purposeful misrepresentation, there is also the practise, both past and present, of suppressing historical materials or, if not suppressing them, of discouraging their discovery.. Journalist Richard Ostling agrees having discovered that in official LDS publications sensitive issues are downplayed, avoided, or denied". Famous Mormon scholar Hugh Nibley answered in response to the hundreds of changes in revelations contained in Doctrines and covenants "Revelations have been changed whenever necessary. That is the nice thing about revelatio - it is open ended. Hugh NIbley letter to Morris L.Reynolds May 12, 1966 quoted in Jerald and Sandra Tanner case against Mormonism.

LDs officials also attmpted to cover up Smiths original revelations in the early 1960s to suppress a copy of the book of comandments locked in their church arcives. At one point Mormon leaders even contaced BYU telling the school not to allow microfilmed pages of the rare book to be distributed to the public. Tanner & Tanner major problems of Mormonism, 135. Eventually however a full copy of the revelations in the book of Commandments was published..

Answer 1

The persecution complex can actually benefit religious groups. It can make the members more united as they all have a common enemy and the feeling that if they 'stick together' they will be safe. The Mormon religion is a classic example of this strategy. They even send missionaries out to increase the public perception of Mormons knowing that the missionaries are likely to be mocked, taunted and ridiculed. This serves to make the missionaries, typically adolescents, deeper within the Mormon religion and also occasionally they do 'make a sale' so it's a win, win for them. But it's all about increasing the persecution that Mormons feel.

Answer 2

That is an easy one. All Church's claim to be different and to hold the truth. Why Else would there be so many different Christian denominations? Mormons are not unique in that regard as we also claim to have the truth.
But here is the big difference. Mormons to not tell you to your face that you are damned, or that you are a "cult" or that you are not Christian for not believing the same way we do. Mormons do not go seek open confrontation and bash other faiths. Mormons do not go stand outside the worship services of other denominations and scream and yell profane oaths, and deride what other's hold sacred and bash openly. (This is done to Mormons at their bi annual conference worship meeting----bashers come and stand on the street corners outside of the meeting house and defame, scream out oaths of hatred, etc.)
That and more are the differences between Mormons and their detractors.

Answer 3

So, you does not individually "bash" yet another person's faith. best for you. regrettably, you're merely one factor of an extremely tiny minority of Mormons who do no longer "bash" different religions - and you may desire to settle for this fact. Being a member of a company that's regular to have engaged in specific strikes makes you situation to the very comparable suspicions positioned on those contributors who rather did those strikes. stay with it - or paintings to freshen up your Church from the interior. And your declare that the Mormon Church does not have interaction in "bashing" different religions...I already comprehend it rather is a pretend declare, costly. I rather have been "bashed" because of the fact i'm no longer a Mormon - and it became a Mormon that did the "bashing"! Oh, and in order that which you comprehend - that Mormon did no longer have self assurance in my faith, a fact which ought to be particularly obtrusive.

Answer 4

We haven't condemned other religions to hell, nor do we spread falsehoods about others beliefs. We don't foster hate within our walls. Never have I been in a sacrament service where we talk about and decimate other religions and their falsehoods, but damned if I haven't been in a baptist, pentecostal, nondenominational and whatever and heard entire sermons about the evils of Mormons.

McKonkie is not a prophet. He does not speak for the church. As for the others....well. If you were trying to perform brain surgery, but dropped out of med school right when brain surgery was being taught, would I be bashing you if if I said that you are ignorant on how to be a brain surgeon?

I think not.

EDIT:
I don't dispute their legitimacy. But I do take issue with the word "bashing" Sure. That stuff was said. But it's not bashing if it's true. Trust me, i have heard bashing. Nobody calls the other denominations "cults". Even though when they were first started, that's precisely what they were. And kind of still are. No one calls baptists "evil". As a rule, except for the catholics, they don't get called "polygamous child molestors"

If calling me a polygamous child molestor isn't bashing, i don't know what is. I know that it's a lot more bashing than claiming other churches to be misguided and unfulfilled.

Answer 5

What he really said was, all THOSE churches were wrong, their creeds were an abomination, and THEIR professors were corrupt. God was speaking of the churches THEN.

All those things you put down by our PAST leaders are not things directed at non-Mormons, but things that were said TO US. And probably taken out o context.

Oh, and one thing to remember about "Mormon Doctrine" by Bruce R. McConkie. He wrote it originally LONG before he became a General Authority. He stated in the introduction taht this was HIS work and HE ALONE was responsible for it, meaning that it is NOT official church publication.

Also, they do not lie about what non-LDS Christians believe. What irks me most of all, is the LIES that are told about what we supposedly believe. I don't care if you don't believe as I do, I don't even care if you HATE what I believe. But, hate what I DO believe, not what I do not believe.

Answer 6

Mormon's doctrines are so silly that people are more like laughing at them than bashing them.I do not hate them.I feel sorry they waste their time and money and effort on something that lead them to hell when they really want to love God.

Answer 7

It's not really bashing, it's just their way of saying "we're better than they are", and "we're right, they're wrong", while at the same time making sure their believers are too scared to think otherwise. It's pretty common, sadly.

Answer 8

You don't know much about the Latter Day Saints. They were threatened by being killed in Illinois, is why they migrated across the country to Utah.
I'm not Mormon, studied up on it when I lived in Mesa, AZ.

Answer 9

They don't make up beliefs about Christians with lies and distortions. They straight up tell you, they are false. Take it or leave it. Not like these antis trying to tell me what I believe in because they twist the truth. GET YOUR HATE STRAIGHT!

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