Dairies hurt animals. In order to keep the cows in a state where they are producing milk - they have to have recently had a calf. They are impregnated artificially and the calves are taken from them when they are just a few days old. The female calves end up back in the dairy cycle as replacemet cows and the male calves are pretty much useless - mmmm, veal. If you kept a cow as a pet in your backyard - here bossy, bossy - she would live about 20 years - longer than ol' Fido. On a dairy, bossy becomes a Big Mac after 3-4 lactation cycles - less than 4 years. 1 in 4 dairy cows suffer Mastitis - enlarged, infected udders. We won't even go into the hormones they are injected with to produce even more milk. Forget about all those "happy cows" commercials. I live in Dairy Country - most of the dairy cows I see are standing up to their udders in mud and manure. No one pasture feeds their dairy cattle. Milk in and of itself is cruel.
Well, Jenny - I'm glad you work on such a utopian dairy but that is not the norm and you know it. You don't sell your old dried out cows? What - do you have a special retirement pasture for them? Get real - dairies are a business and no dairy can afford to keep feeding a milk cow that doesn't give milk. I have close friends who run multiple 2000+ head dairies and while they may not appreciate my stance - they never disagree with anything I say about the topic. Those cows are their livelyhood - not their pampered pets. If you go dry, stumble or get sick - you're a burger. And while they are proud of their "free stall" system - I still go out and see their cows in knee deep muck during the wet winters. We just don't have daries around here with less than 1000 cows and it is a business - that's all. A cruel business at that.
So . . . if you you want cruelty free ice-cream - go soy. I love Tofuti - especially the sandwiches.
2007-11-01 05:24:16
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answered by senorarroz 3
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I agree with Jenny. I'm quite sure that most dairy cows do not live the idealistic, Utopian life in the "Happy cows come from California" commercials. I'm also quite sure that my milk production is based on my and my daughter's happiness and our willingness to do nurse. However, I'm not being pumped with artificial hormones to keep producing and I'm not constantly being forced to pump with no balm or medication for my sore, raw nipples. I don't really pump yet; When I did have sore, raw nipples at the beginning, I was given some lotion at the hospital which i did not use, as I did not get in the habit of doing so. By the end of the first week, they healed themselves. Pumping is not comfortable and I can't imagine being forced to do so all day, every day.
In addition to milk, there might also be eggs in the ice cream.
Also, sherbet while fruity, contains milk. Sorbet is all fruit.
Soy Delicious makes soy ice "cream". I've had the chocolate and it seemed to taste chocolatier than any chocolate ice cream I'd ever had int he past. Also at $3 a half gallon (at Trader Joe's a chain of low cost, high quality health/natural food stores), it might also be price comparable to some of the national brands of ice cream.
2007-11-01 05:55:59
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answered by Vegan_Mom 7
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Cookies and Cream Double Dutch Plain Vanilla
2016-03-13 09:29:12
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answered by Anonymous
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Much icecream, probably 70%, contains gelatin, and therefore not veggie nor vegan.
But, you can get vegetarian and vegan icecreams.
Normal supermarkets stock vegetarian versions, you'll have to hunt out specialist shops to find the vegan versions.
Both obviously exclude gelatin
They will be clearly labelled.
I don't beleive "dichotomymom" understands the dairy industry at all, regardless of how many dairy farms you have visited. If you are going to quote the anology of women having babies every year can you also include these facts:
all thier male offspring will be killed at one week old
If they have twins, both will be killed as farms hate free martins
they will be carousel fed and milked to bribe them into excess milk production
they will be killed once thy have reached peak production at less than half thier life expectancy.
Feed them hormone enriched food so they produce 4 times the normal amount of milk - that'll hurt, i'm pretty sure.
There are numourous other issues with the milk industry.
I rescue cows from the dairy industry so see this and much more first hand.
Sorry to hi-jack your question, but we can't let the happy cows myth go un-questioned.
2007-11-01 05:49:07
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answered by Michael H 7
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Although i'm not a vegetarian, im probably more of a carnivore (that is to say my diet consists largely of meat, but not entirely), I do agree with Gary R. If you have a belief that a system is morally wrong then you have to go into it full force. It's useless to say that you're a vegetarian from a moral stance because it's hypocritical.
2007-11-05 02:26:55
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answered by Anonymous
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Unhappy cows don't milk?? What is that woman on? If that were the case, there would be a serious milk shortage. Lets see how she would feel if she were impregnated every year to keep her lactating and then have her day old babies taken away from her so they won't drink the milk which is rightfully theirs. That's on top of all the drugs she'd be pumped with so her breasts become so uncomforably large her legs become lame. Happy cows? Ha!
2007-11-01 05:36:23
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answered by jenny84 4
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As someone who breastfed two children, I know that if you're not happy and healthy, it's difficult to produce quality and quantity in milk. The cows aren't abused in most facilities and they aren't expecting to be entertained or romanced so the live they live is not unpleasant.
Jenny: I've been to many dairies and the cows behaviors are not any different that those of cows who are allowed to pasture....and there are plenty of women who have a child every year to year and 1/2. I have also raised dairy goats and know that if they aren't happy, there milk production goes down. Udders are by nature, large when filled with milk and that has nothing to do with man.
Bag balm is applied to the teets every time the cow is milked so they don't get chapped, and Jenny, it's not just that I've been to some dairies, I come from a family of cattle farmers (I see first hand how they are treated)
2007-11-01 05:27:28
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answered by Chickenfarmer 7
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Besides the milk, there can be gelatin and/or eggs in ice cream. Read your labels.
Or get Purely Decadent soy ice creams, So Delicious soy ice creams, and Temptation soy ice cream. Yummy!
2007-11-01 08:59:59
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answered by VeggieTart -- Let's Go Caps! 7
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Homemade icecream contains milk, pudding mix, vanilla, and evaporated milk, and eggs...at least this is what I put in mine (I still crank mine by hand).
2007-11-01 05:09:47
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answered by I hang with the BIG DOGS 4
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