what do yall vegans think about us veggies?

Question

just curious if vegans think that we are just as bad as meat eaters or what?
like do u understand why we arnt vegan or arent ready to be yet?
or do u think we just dont have enough will power?
like when u see us eat cheese do u look at us the same as someone who is eating eggs or meat?
im just throwing some stuff out there..so just give me ur thoughts..thnx

Answer 1

None of us" born again" vegans have a right to look down on other veggies or anyone else for that matter. We all ate meat,
dairy, or eggs at some time or another unless we were born vegan. None of us should forget that. We should look back at what we used to do, witness others still doing it and feel extra motivated to live a cruelty free lifestyle. But that's all. No judging. Feel proud of yourself for being Lacto Ovo. Ignore anyone who tries to demean your efforts.

P.S. Animal exploitation is attrocious but we have to seperate the actions from the people. It's one thing to hate a person's actions. It's another to hate or look down on the individual themselves.

Answer 2

I think it's great when people take steps to reduce animal suffering, whether it's reducing meat consumption or just buying products not tested on animals. I think being a vegetarian is definitely a good thing. Imagine how much suffering would be eliminated if everyone who eats meat did what you do.

I don't question people's decision to not go vegan. I don't know you. I don't know anything about your life, your food preferences, your morals, your reasoning. The ONLY reason a person should go vegan is because they truly believe with heart and soul that it is the right way to live. And you can't force or change that. Either you feel it or you don't, and there's no point beating yourself up for not feeling the same way someone else does.

Answer 3

I think that it's great that veggies at least try to reduce the amount of food they eat that involves cruelty. I don't really understand the reasoning behind it though so it would be great if you could explain it to me. I genuinely thought that it was just based on will power or ignorance. When I was a veggie I had no idea of the suffering involved in the dairy and egg industry so I carried on eating it because I didn't know any better. As soon as I found out though, I turned vegan.

Now, I actually think they're crueler than the meat industry who they work with anyway when they send the animals that aren't producing as well anymore off to slaughter. And even during their lives they suffer terrible conditions, have their day old young taken away from them and are pumped full of drugs just so we can eat things which are unhealthy anyway.

I don't judge anyone for what they eat but I don't really understand how moral vegetarians think it's ok to support the egg and dairy industry while condemning the meat industry... they both cause pain, suffering and death to animals.

Again, I'd like to stress I don't have a problem with veggies and think they're great but you did ask... I don't think they're wrong, I just don't understand their reasoning.

Answer 4

My reasoning for my vegetarian lifestyle is not cruelty to animals (though it's obviously a concern!), but a belief that eating lower on the food chain saves resources and reduces our ecological footprint. In my mind, it is a choice - you can grow crops on a given area (using all associated inputs - water, etc) and eat it, or you can grow this crop, ship it to a feedlot or farm and feed it to the animals, which are then consumed. These animals need months (or years) of this crop as a food source, plus more inputs (water, hormones, etc). It's wasteful when you could just eat the crop!

I'm a newly converted vegan as a result of animal cruelty issues. At least the animals get to be put out of their feedlot misery when people consume them directly, producing dairy products and eggs on a large scale results in animals that are forced to endure awful conditions for a litfetime.

Back to the question - I think vegetarianism is great - it shows an awareness of the effects of human consumption and is certainly not an ignorant lifestyle choice. Veganism is just another method of reducing human ignorance to what we consume.

Answer 5

It's a good start, but I think it's just silly.
You see, it used to be either you are vegetarian (100%) or you are not. There are no in betweens. There are no fish eating, dairy eating etc. vegetarians. Either you are or you are not. Then all these people start saying, "Oh, I'm a vegetarian, but I eat dairy", "I'm a vegetarian, but I eat fish", "I'm a vegetarian, but I eat eggs". "I'm a vegetarian, but I eat white meat, not red meat"... and no wonder everyone is confused about what the hell a vegetarian is or does etc.

Personally, I prefer to call myself a herbivore, but few people even know what that is these days.

Maybe I should start a new term... okay, got one... "A Realized Herbivore". That is, a herbivore living amongst other herbivores that do not realize they are herbivores, but realizes one day that that he/she is actually a herbivore.

Answer 6

i wish there were more of you. the world would be a better place if most people in it were vegetarians. and then more vegans would happen too. i chose to go vegan after i read the china study. for a lot of people giving up meat is hard to do. the next hard thing would be to give up dairy. but once done it doesn't seem so hard anymore.

especially now with products such as tofutti better than cream cheese, tofutti better than sour cream, and egg replacer for baking.

Answer 7

It makes me very happy to see someone rejecting the "all-American" meat gorging lifestyle, and to see how many people aren't giving money to inhumane industries.

But it does sort of strike me as weird that ethical vegetarians (as opposed to health vegetarians) haven't made the full switch, as the animals "used" in the milk and egg industries suffer horrifically as well.

But that's okay. Most people are veg before going vegan, and any change is good.

Answer 8

Anyone who is reducing animal products from his/her diet is taking a step in the right direction. I wish more vegetarians would go vegan, but I know it's a difficult step for many people.

And sadly, dairy and eggs are worse than meat when it comes to animal cruelty. A lot of people don't realize that. But when I found out about the dairy-veal connection, I could no longer eat dairy foods.

Answer 9

Well... I'm not a vegan, I'm a vegetarian, actually a lacto-vegetarian, I've not touched eggs for a good time now... lately, neither have I touched milk products except as ingredients in chocolate... I do think however that vegans are less harsh on us than omnivores...

Answer 10

I'm veggie, i don't eat any dairy, i eat eggs from my own hens. I shouldn't have to explain myself to anyone.

I agree with Jenny about the dairy industry. I see it a lot because we rescue cows and go and collect them from dairy carousels...not good.

Half the dairy herd is killed every year. That doesn't happen with beef so i agree its worse than the beef industry. but really i don't want to be pushed as to which is worse, they are both abhorrent. As is the egg industry where 20% of the flock are killed every year.

Here are some issues you might want to be aware of in the milk industry:
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AgByaa8oPhLwa_zSAO7VjSIhBgx.?qid=20070720094546AA4EtKC

Veggie without use of leather and dairy while using my own eggs is a fair compromise for me.

Wool is not really exploitation in my view, its a husbandry by-product, it doesn't contribute to the profit of keeping sheep, it needs doing for thier health, If we stop wearing wool all the same sheep will still be kept, the wool will be burnt. Stop eating meat and the wool industry would stop instantly. Sheep are not kept for wool, hence i'm no problem with wearing it.

I have recently been acosted by a vegan for eating an egg while she drank her non-vegan red wine. At that point i lost interest in her arguement. Whats worse, eating an egg of known origin or drinking wine with dead cows in it ?