How can you not believe in a God? Part 2...?

Question

Ok first off please no religious propaganda here. I'm not looking for who you think is God or what religion you follow. Personally I don't follow any religion and that's not what I'm getting at. Second of all, the "look at all the evil in the world" response is just a cop out so don't try and use that either.

That being said, the people who answered honestly, thank you. I appreciate and respect your opinions, but for the sake of argument is it really that much better to say that there just always has and always will be existence rather than existence is more than just an unbelievably astronomical coincidence?

Answer 1

It's easy not to believe in a god. There isn't a single thing in all of our cosmos that requires a god in the equation. The system works just fine without a supernatural being. We don't even need a god to start the Big Bang. In fact, if such a god were to exist, it would violate all the natural laws that we know. Since there is zero evidence, I think the better question is the converse-why does anyone believe in a god? I can can debunk any and all 'evidence' given. And yet people will insist. What drives me crazy because it is a circular, nonsense arguement is when people say. "I believe that god exists, I don't need proof" or the faith is opposite from science, "so I don't need proof, I just know". Rubbish. To insist on anything without some form of proof is infantile. Why cling to an imaginary idea that you purposefully define cannot be touched by reason? Why do people need an unchanging standard of any kind? We certainly don't need an external moral or ethical measure. Especially one that is defined by the Bible as wildy moody, capricious, blood-thirsty, bigoted, etc, etc.

In terms of existence, are you talking about ours or the existence of life or the existence of god? In terms of the existence of life, it is note remotely an astronomical coincidence. Likely there are exotic life forms in uncountable forms bustling throughout not only our galaxy, but throught the entire cosmos. The fantastically small chances are on the side of life NOT existing ubiquitously.

Answer 2

I'm not sure if you watch the Simpsons, but there's one episode (actually a Treehouse of Horror episode) where for a school science project, either Bart or Lisa put a tooth and some other stuff in a bowl, and a whole world is formed inside that bowl.

Now of course, that's probably not the way our world was formed, but it's an interesting "outside of the box" way to look at it. Either way, once there was nothing, and eventually there was something. Where is the beginning of time? How did we get something from nothing? Our science fails at those points every time. How ever the universe was formed was definitely outside of the box. I look out the window, and I say that there's no way evolution could have turned out this way.

So I do I know there's a God? How do we know this God isn't just a Zeus or a Ra made up to explain the unknown? It's more than just the creation story. But if I say any more, I think it would be religious propaganda, so I will stop there.

Answer 3

Existence itself isn't a coincidence. You can't have a coincidence without anything existing with which something else could coincide. Our own existence, as humans, isn't really a coincidence either, as we could only have evolved under the conditions we're under. With all the planets that exist, that at least one of them is capable of supporting life is hardly a surprise.

If by "astronomical coincidence" you're referring to the Big Bang, then I'd have to say that we don't know how much of a coincidence such an event is. Or even if it is one. Nobody completely understands what happened way back then (periods before the Big Bang are, by some accounts, impossible to observe, and by other accounts, meaningless). And no, it's not better to say that there has always been existence, because all evidence points to the contrary, even if it would be easier to understand things if we were to ignore the evidence.

Answer 4

i think in God yet i'm no longer a christian, jew, or muslim. I see him as some form of being. what occurs to us or others isn't the impression of God or the different being yet our own. and that i'm no longer making this as much as sense extra useful approximately my sins. God, the only maximum folk portray him as merely would not make sence it is why. and that i'm advantageous there are alot of persons that veiw God as this comparable being and that i do no longer even now them. Nature is has continuously been risky and it is being laid low with our polution it is why there are storms like katrina. The mega volcanoes are an occasion of ways risky nature is, quicker or later they are gonna blow and not something will keep us then. All residing issues have some stable and evil. Evil is unquestionably what we veiw as unacceptable. something had to create all of this, no longer something won't be able to create something. yet whilst those wacky religions are real then i be attentive to the place i'm heading, and it ain't heaven.

Answer 5

Your question simply assumes there was a beginning to the universe. As far as I know, scientists don't even have theories for what might have happened and/or existed before the big bang.

I tend to believe the universe as we know it is just the latest incarnation of something that has existed in one for or another forever.

If you assume the universe was created by a God, then I have to ask what created God?

Answer 6

I can't agree with something that always has been and always will be because that will never exist within the demensions of time itself. The only way for a God to exist is out of the existance of time itself and God would have no effect here because of that problem.

Answer 7

I am a human I cannot prove the God
I am a primate I cannot touch him
I am an animal but still I cannot interfere with him.
primarily the NONexistence of something not interferring is a more likely option to the existence of such ..thing/being.

Answer 8

Who said it's a coincidence? You have to check on your defininition of what "God" is an according to which culture. Second who is to say that we aren't some Giant Universal experiment in a lab of Blue aliens from a different universe? I mean we can see how the "Gods" of certain cultures came about. We can't see how the Atoms from the universe started but to think it was one of the thousand gods created by man is absurd.

Answer 9

anything can be explained via science
let me explain how I see religion through a fake guy name jope

"Hi, my name is jope, you are going to be tortured forever by my invisible friend's invisible counterpart(devil) because you do not believe he exists, DON'T HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE!!!(marriage was originally a pagan tradition that the church proclaimed evil, in fact at one point it was a sin to have sex with anyone or get married) its this thing called a sin, and when you sin you doing what my invisible friend does not want you to do, he could Magically kill you but he chooses not to, because he is merciful... Unless something bad happens to you then it was him that did it. I don't kill or do anything bad because I am afraid of god, I cannot comprehend why atheists are allowed to walk around without fear of god they must be killing everybody, there is not reason not to kill people without god watching

I am too sleepy to keep that up but basically that is what I hear and see. I have no real problem with people just some people a

now I have a question for you
if you have kids
have they ever been disobedient to the point where you had to yell?
if so why are they still alive
according to the bible you should have killed them
had the stoned to death by the village

Deuteronomy 21:18



Cheers

Answer 10

If you are going to say 'that there just always has and always will be existence' then it could just be matter falling back through time. The real answer is 'We just do not know!' Why invent a god? Use Occam's razer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_of_Ockham
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ockham%27s_Razor