Were God and Satan ever one and the same?

Question

Perhaps somewhere along the line God divided himself into and Satan came from God. Maybe God created an adversay from himself? What do you think?

Sorry for typos, adversay should read adversary.

budroscoe understands what I am getting at.

Answer 1

god is satan, (when he is drunk).

Answer 2

God and Satan are the same because they are both spirits(persons that we cannot see). But there are a lot of differences between them. God is Good. While Satan is Bad. God is perfect in his purpose. Satan oppose God's purpose. God saves Humankind from death. Satan want humankind dead. God surpass the power of Satan abundantly. God has many angels than Satan's. God has a perfect organization. Satan has a sinfull organization.

Answer 3

Nope. It would've said so in the Bible: It ranges from the beginning to the end.

P.S. God is the Creator and Satan is the Fallen angel, Lucifer. Maybe the Trinity made you think of this? Regardless, God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are the ones that are one and the same.

*It was the goodness in God that created the possibility for evil. This is because of free will. God is one-hundred percent goodness; There is no evil in Him. His creations - the angels and such - were given a choice. The choice was the divider. This doesn't mean that there has to be evil in God in order for evil to emerge. It simply means that only God is perfect. It is a complex situation involving free will and nothing more.

Answer 4

To put this in form that is easy to understand, becouse some people are trying to hard to explain. The story goes. That Lucifer or Satan as he is known, was the most beatifial angel in heaven as stated to bible. Having this high position in heaven he became very selfish and his Lust for everyting. He tried to become bigger than god himself. Which resulted in him getting a first class ticket to a world which we all know as hell. And this is were he has started his on own place, and angels of his own also called demons from a hellish point of view. He is not the only fallen angel there were several other ones.

Answer 5

on no account, i've got self assurance God and His notice and could on no account twist His notice like this. i think I do worry the guy who has suited administration over each and every thing and anybody(God). as nicely, in case you reside perplexed with regard to the version on an analogous time as in the international, it is going to be VERY sparkling to you whilst GOD judges you, you would be SEPARATED from God, yet will finally end up in Hell with devil. people who don't understand the Bible think of that's silly as reported interior the Bible. yet keep in mind, merely because of the fact you do no longer understand something, has no concerning that's validity. learn the notice, discover out what those memories mean. whilst i became youthful, I heard the memories, yet no longer till I did my very own interpreting and examining the Bible, did I understand them. massive distinction.

Answer 6

God is Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta'la), Allah is the creator of whole of the universe.

Satan is a type of Allah's creatures, satan is created from fire and he is denied beacuase of his disobedience.

Allah is the Great God and the only Creator of this universe. How anyone can describe His Great Diety by any of His creatures?

To Allah applies the highest similitude: for He is the Exalted in Power, Full of Wisdom.

It is He Who begins (the process of) creation; then repeats it; and for Him it is most easy. To Him belongs the loftiest similitude (we can think of) in the heavens and the earth: for He is Exalted in Might, Full of Wisdom.

Or, who has created the heavens and the earth, and who sends you down rain from the sky? Yea, with it We cause to grow well-planted orchards full of beauty and delight: it is not in your power to cause the growth of the trees in them. (Can there be another) god besides Allah? Nay, they are a people who swerve from justice.

Or, who has made the earth firm to live in; made rivers in its midst; set thereon mountains immovable, and made a separating bar between the two bodies of flowing water? (Can there be another) god besides Allah? Nay, most of them know not.

Or, who listens to the (soul) distressed when it calls on Him, and who relieves its suffering, and makes you (mankind) inheritors of the earth? (Can there be another) god besides Allah? Little it is that ye heed!

Or, who guides you through the depths of darkness on land and sea, and who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His mercy? (Can there be another) god besides Allah? High is Allah above what they associate with Him!

The Most Extraordinary Incident Ever!
Abdulqadir Diriye


I was reading a book in the dining room when the printer started to print. Strangely, my computer was in ANOTHER room and I was the only person in the house. I picked up the message which read:

"The oceans, the insects, the planets and their orbits, the light and the darkness, the air and the water, the perfect flow of the universe, the life, how did it all begin? By accident?"


I quickly went to check who was using my computer. To my surprise, I found my cat playing on the keyboard and just by hitting different keys of the keyboard it produced this message! Unbelievable! I came back to read the message again. It was in plain human language and there was no chance that a cat could have produced it. I have tried to solve this riddle but to no avail, but I remembered later that I was taught at school that this whole universe itself is the result of an accident, the Big Bang! The Big Bang was an explosion that formed the earth, the sun and the planets, and consequently the water, air and the life. Yes it was an accident as said by the scientists. Scientists also agree that every single element in the nature has a purpose and essential role in the smooth flow of the universe. For example if one star leaves its orbit or if the composition of the atmosphere changes slightly it will not support the life as we know it.

But, if an accident produced this perfect universe, why can't I reward my cat as it became the first ever cat that could WRITE (accidently though)? If my cat can’t write one paragraph in an accident, how can this faultless universe come out of an accident when there was not even a cat on the keyboard? How can I believe the scientists while I cannot believe my own eyes?

From: http://discover.islamway.com/articles.php?article_id=37&lang=1

Answer 7

No, God and Lucifer (Satan) have always been two separate entities. God the Father threw out from heaven Lucifer because the latter wanted to usurp God and His throne and to force everyone to return to his presence, thereby making null and void God's great gift of free agency.

Lucifer had been an important personage, a son of the Morning Light, but lost it all because of his rebellion.

Again, God and Satan are two separate entities--never being one and the same. You can take that to the bank.

Answer 8

According to my beliefs, Satan was one of God's main angels and was loved a great deal by God, but when God asked him to bow in front of Adam he refused because he believed that he was an angel and should not have to bow to anyone and refused God on his request, he believed himself to be better because Adam was made of dirt , This made God furious so he condemned him to the land beneath the earth better known as hell, Satan then swore his eneminity towards God and declared that he will turn his creation against him..and there you have it the story of how satan came to be! hope i helped!

Answer 9

Taking the bible as the source of authority on this issue as it is the inspired word of God.

Satan was a created being. Who was created as a guardian of God's Glory, who was the highest and most esteemed of all angels. A cherub and the highest and most glorious of all of that order.

Ezekiel 28:12-19
"Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says:
" 'You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared.
You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones. You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you. Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, O guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones.
Your heart became proud on account of your beauty, and you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. So I threw you to the earth; I made a spectacle of you before kings. By your many sins and dishonest trade you have desecrated your sanctuaries. So I made a fire come out from you, and it consumed you, and I reduced you to ashes on the ground in the sight of all who were watching. All the nations who knew you are appalled at you; you have come to a horrible end and will be no more.' "

On God dividing himself, the bible teaches and is summarized in the doctrine of Immutability (simply the unchangeableness of God).

Rev 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

James 1:17 There is no variableness or shadow of turning with him

So hopefully that gives you a bit of an insight.

Also Isaiah 14:13 gives you insight into Satan's Fall.

Answer 10

I think you are on to something. God is in everything and everywhere, at least God the Holy Spirit right. In Taoism the two opposing forces contain a little bit of there opposite in each other. I think with some further study you could defend this theory. You can't have the shadow with out the light to define it.

Answer 11

Bandicoo,
GOD created satan as an angel and he (satan) wanted to be more important than GOD. In tempting Adam and Eve he brought sin into our lives and CHRIST came to allow us an opportunity to be in Heaven with them. You have an opportunity to become a Christian and have the hope of Heaven too if/when you make that decision. I pray that you will do so. Have a great week.
Thanks,
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