navy arms country boy 50 cal. muzzleloader, need help, what grain powder and bullet does it use please help?

Question

, MUZZLELOADER SEASON OPENS THIS WEEKEND, I KNOW THERE ARE 2 MONSTER BUCKS WHERE I HUNT AT, A HEAVY BODIED 10 POINT,.,., AND I THINK THE ANOTHER IS A 13 OR 14 POINT,.,.,.,., I CANT FIND THIS MUZZLE LOADER ON THE INTERNET , SO PLEASE HELP, ON WHAT GRAIN OF POWDER AND GRAIN OF BULLETS.,.,.,, PLEASE PLEASE HELP.,., I WANNA GET ONE OF THOSE MONSTER BUCKS, LOL I HAVE BUCK FEVER

I hunted all my life, i forgot to mention, i let my papaw borrow my new t/c omega, since he was sick before and gave his to his son, i got this guy from a guy i know, he didnt have the owners book with it, i need to know what grain of powder and bullet to use in it?!!!!!!

Answer 1

If you think you are ready to try for these 'monsters', if I were you, I'd use a 300+gr. .45 Sabot slug over 2 pellets (100gr) of Pyrodex. At anything under 100yds, a well placed shot with this load will more than get the job done and is definitely as accurate as one can be.
I would definitely a stiff dose of something to relieve your 'buck fever' before you take the field, as well. Accuracy and attitude are FAR more important than the load.
I know of several nice trophies, including my own, which have fallen to this, and similar .50 cal. loads. I use after-market sabots, paired with my own choice of .45cal soft- or hollow-point bullets, depending on which critter will be on the receiving end, whether it be deer, elk, or moose.

Answer 2

Calm down.
First, IF you have not yet fired this gun on a range, you are NOT ready to hunt with it!
Muzzleloaders REQUIRE that you stop your target with the FIRST shot!! (As ANY hunter SHOULD with ANY weapon he uses!!)

Check the manufacturer's web site for information on this weapon.

Most .50's use a ball/patch from .490 to .495, miniball, maxiball, or saboted slugs; and use (depending on the weapon) either 100gr or 150gr FFg BP or equivalent in various brands of BP powder 'pellets' or substitutes.

I am not familiar with this particular make and model as I shoot the T/C Hawkins, caplock and flintlock, in .50.
MY powder load is 100gr FFG, with ANY ball/patch, maxiball, or miniball. I don't shoot sabot bullets at all. (If I want a modern bullet I use a modern weapon, such as my 308 or 30-06!!)

I can drop a deer or elk at up to 150 yards easily, BUT I can ALSO put 3 out of 3 in 1" at 100 yards with the same weapon in less than 1 minute, from a 'rest' or 'cross sticks'!

Answer 3

That sounds like a perfect loading. My loading manuals (plural) for most of my flintlock rifles call for loadings of between 50 and 110 grains of FFg black powder. The 50 grain loads are for putting holes in paper out to 50 yards. The higher loadings approaching 110 grains will create some accuracy issues at longer distances. 80 grains is perfect for deer-sized game.

Answer 4

In order to select a bullet for your gun, you need to know the twist rate of the barrel. If the twist rate is around 1 in 66, then it is designed to shoot patched round balls. If it has a twist rate of, say, 1 in 44 or faster, it is designed to shoot conical bullets such as saboted bullets. The way to determine the twist rate is to put a tight fitting patch on your cleaning rod and run it down the bore. Mark the cleaning rod right at the muzzle. Draw a ring around the cleaning rod right at the muzzle and then make a mark at the top of the rod so you can see how much it is turning as you withdraw it. Slowly pull the rod out of the bore allowing it to turn in your hand as you withdraw it. Pull the rod out until the mark that you maed at the top of the rod has now rotated exactly 180 degrees to the bottom of the rod. Now accurately measure from the muzzle to the ring around your cleaning rod and multiply this distance by 2. The number that you get is the twist rate. Now you can select the correct type of bullet that your gun shoots.

As for the amount of powder that you will need, if you select loose powder, I recommend somewhere between 80 and 100 grains of ffG. If you use the pellets (only use them for in-line rifles, they won't work in a regular muzzleloader) use 2 pellets. That is equivalent to 100 grains of powder.

Now we get to where the rubber meets the road, as they say. If you have not worked out a load for your rifle and have sighted it in, DO NOT take it hunting yet. You are not ready to use that rifel for hunting until you have worked up a loadding for it and made sure that your sights are properly adjusted to put the round where you intend for it to go. A muzzleloadeer is like a woman in that it behooves you to get to know it well and know its likes and dislikes and treat it tenderly and lovingly. Only then will it do its best for you and then and only then are you ready to take it to the woods. Until then you ain't' ready to take it out on a serious date.

Answer 5

Country Boy Pellets

Answer 6

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Yes, it will and your range is reasonable for that load. The only issue that I see is that percussion caps may not reliably ignite Pyrodex or 777 pellets. Make sure that it'll work consistently in your gun before you take it hunting. If you find that the pellets aren't reliable, just switch to the loose powder and a volumetric powder measure. The granular powder is less expensive anyway.

Answer 7

If you'd never shot your muzzle-loader, there is no way you will be ready to make an ethical hunt this weekend.

Read your owners manual and go to the range to learn how your rifle shoots, and what load is most accurate in it.

Doc

Answer 8

Depending on the rifling, you might be best of with a .490 or .495 patched round ball. Take your cotton pillow ticking and soak it in vegtable oil. Use FF or FFF powder, around 90-110 grains and make sure it shoots accurate enough. Good luck on your hunt.

Answer 9

its a 50 sight that bad boy in with 50. t/c shockwave sabots ,use 150 g(3pellets) shoot and sight in as if you where a pro.reasoning for more powder is longer shots and i know you can hit 200 yards on that load. if it is still squirrly after you get it in line, make sure you swab the barrel after each shot while sighting in....thats very very important