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In the book of Jude the angel Michael does not rebuke Satan he says the Lord rebuke thee. He could not rebuke Satan and had to call upon God.

Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

In Matthew where Jesus is tempted He rebukes Satan Himself. He tells him to leave basically without calling upon anyone.

Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

If Jesus and Michael are the same being why could Jesus rebuke Satan and Michael couldn't?

2007-10-30 13:13:00 · 17 answers · asked by Bible warrior 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

papa - if they are the same being why couldn't Michael rebuke Satan?

2007-10-30 13:30:48 · update #1

I speak Truth - Actually if you read Jude in more plain English it means Michael dare not rebuke Satan. In other words he could not do it.

2007-10-30 14:18:14 · update #2

17 answers

NO. Jesus is God.

This argument is presented in this way in the April 15, 1991, Watchtower magazine, on page 28

"Why do we conclude Jesus is the archangel Michael?
God's Word mentions only one archangel,and it speaks of that angel in reference to the resurrected Lord Jesus: " The Lord himself will descend from heaven with commanding call, with an archangel's voice and with God's trumpet. " (1 Thessalonians 4:16) At Jude 9 we find that this archangel's name is Michael.

The argument consists of three parts that can be analyzed separately:
1."God's Word mentions only one archangel."
2. "it speaks of that angel in reference to the resurrected Lord Jesus",
3."this archangel's name is Michael."

In answer to 1.and 3. it should be noted that the term "archangel" is found only twice in the Bible -at Thessalonias 4:16 and Jude 9 - providing insufficient infromation to say for certain that there are no other archangels besides Michael. Although he is the only archangel named in Scripture, Michael is referred to as "one of the foreost princes." ( Dan 10:13 NWT ) The Bible leaves open the possibility that there are other unnamed archangels besides Michael.

As for part 2. of the Watchtower argument, it is faulty locig to cnclude that descending "with an archangel's voice"means that esus is and archangel. If descending with an archangel'svoice makes Christ and archangel, then descending "with God's trumpet" makes Him God. The same logic must be applied to the entire verse, not just part of it.

Does the Bible teach anywhere else tht Jesus Christ is a menre angel?On the contrary, the entire first chapter of Hebrews was written to show the superirity of the Son of God as compared with angels.

""For example, to which one of the angels did he ever say; ' You are my son; I, today, I have become your father'? " ( Heb 1:5 NWT) ( For God never said to any angel, 'Thou art my Son..' " - New English Bible ) The Sonis "the reflection" of the Father's glory " and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by word of his power." ( Heb 1:3 NWT )

Angels consistently refuse to accept worship, saying " Be careful! Do not do that!..Worship God" ( Rev 22:8-9 )But,the Father's command concerning the Son is , "let all God's angels worship him". ( Heb 1:6 NWT, edition 1961

In later edition of its Bible the Watchtower Society changed worship to obeisance at Heb 1:6. Still, regardless of how it is translated, the same Greek word proskuneo is used at bot Rev 22:8-9 and Heb 1:6. The proskuneo ( worship or obeisace ) thah angels refuse to accept, but say to give only to God, is the same proskuneo ( worship and obeisance ) that the Father commands to be given to the Son in Heb1:6.

Persons who stop following the man-made Watchtower organization and start following Jesus Chrst soon come to appreciate that the Son of God is no mere angel. This realization is important, in order that they may " honor the Son as they honor the Father. " ( John 5:23 NWT )

2007-10-30 17:07:02 · answer #1 · answered by Nina, BaC 7 · 3 0

As Papa pointed out Jesus and Michael are the same person, Jesus rebuked Satan, Michael did not, but just because a person does not do something, it does not mean that this person cannot do that, sometimes they may do a specific thing that on another occasion they may not.

2007-10-30 14:06:02 · answer #2 · answered by I speak Truth 6 · 0 0

YES he is.
THE spirit creature called Michael is not mentioned often in the Bible. However, when he is referred to, he is in action. In the book of Daniel, Michael is battling wicked angels; in the letter of Jude, he is disputing with Satan; and in Revelation, he is waging war with the Devil and his demons. By defending Jehovah’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies, Michael lives up to the meaning of his name—“Who Is Like God?” But who is Michael?

At times, individuals are known by more than one name. For example, the patriarch Jacob is also known as Israel, and the apostle Peter, as Simon. (Genesis 49:1, 2; Matthew 10:2) Likewise, the Bible indicates that Michael is another name for Jesus Christ, before and after his life on earth. Let us consider Scriptural reasons for drawing that conclusion.

Archangel. God’s Word refers to Michael “the archangel.” (Jude 9) This term means “chief angel.” Notice that Michael is called the archangel. This suggests that there is only one such angel. In fact, the term “archangel” occurs in the Bible only in the singular, never in the plural. Moreover, Jesus is linked with the office of archangel. Regarding the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 states: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.” Thus the voice of Jesus is described as being that of an archangel. This scripture therefore suggests that Jesus himself is the archangel Michael.

2007-10-30 13:17:41 · answer #3 · answered by Just So 6 · 2 1

Is Jesus Christ the same person as Michael the archangel?

The name of this Michael appears only five times in the Bible. The glorious spirit person who bears the name is referred to as “one of the chief princes,” “the great prince who has charge of your [Daniel’s] people,” and as “the archangel.” (Dan. 10:13; 12:1; Jude 9, RS) Michael means “Who Is Like God?” The name evidently designates Michael as the one who takes the lead in upholding Jehovah’s sovereignty and destroying God’s enemies.

At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 (RS), the command of Jesus Christ for the resurrection to begin is described as “the archangel’s call,” and Jude 9 says that the archangel is Michael. Would it be appropriate to liken Jesus’ commanding call to that of someone lesser in authority? Reasonably, then, the archangel Michael is Jesus Christ. (Interestingly, the expression “archangel” is never found in the plural in the Scriptures, thus implying that there is only one.)

Revelation 12:7-12 says that Michael and his angels would war against Satan and hurl him and his wicked angels out of heaven in connection with the conferring of kingly authority on Christ. Jesus is later depicted as leading the armies of heaven in war against the nations of the world. (Rev. 19:11-16) Is it not reasonable that Jesus would also be the one to take action against the one he described as “ruler of this world,” Satan the Devil? (John 12:31) Daniel 12:1 (RS) associates the ‘standing up of Michael’ to act with authority with “a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time.” That would certainly fit the experience of the nations when Christ as heavenly executioner takes action against them. So the evidence indicates that the Son of God was known as Michael before he came to earth and is known also by that name since his return to heaven where he resides as the glorified spirit Son of God.

2007-10-30 21:13:24 · answer #4 · answered by BJ 7 · 0 0

Jesus is not the son of the God. He is not God nor Angel. Why would he pray to himself? He was trying to tell you the Tawheed as all the other prophets on earth were.
(You must find out what Tawheed means)

2014-12-28 03:48:11 · answer #5 · answered by ? 2 · 0 0

Michael is the messenger of God the Father. His is the voice of God the Father in Matthew 3:17, Matthew 17:5, Mark 1:11, and Luke 3:22. Michael is the Holy Spirit. The book of Daniel tells us who the Spirit of Truth is and the Holy Spirit. One brings us the Words, the other makes us understand the Words.

2007-10-30 13:30:25 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 5

Someone just asked this this morning. Yes, he is.

Michael = “who is like God”
Arch = “chief”
Angel = “messenger from God.”
Michael the Archangel is a messenger of God who is like unto God Himself.

2007-10-30 13:16:49 · answer #7 · answered by Justsyd 7 · 3 1

Jesus is NOT Michael.

Michael is a created being, Jesus is the Creator.

Pastor Art

2007-10-30 14:48:51 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

CHRIST JESUS GIVEN POWER OVER HEAVEN AND EARTH

Matt.28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power
is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

MICHAEL & HIS ANGELS HAVE POWER TO CAST OUT SATAN AND 1/3 ANGELS

Rev.12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold
a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven
crowns upon his heads. Rev.17:10-14 [ SEVEN WORLD EMPIRES END, THE EIGHTH HAS TEN NATION OR TEN HORNS TO CONTEND WITH ]];
12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven,
and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the
woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child
as soon as it was born. [SATAN DOWN THE HEAVENLY KINGDOM BORN ];
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought
against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,8 And
prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called
the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was
cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

SALVATION COMES TO THE EARTH IN THE TIME OF THE END Dan.12:1-13;

Rev.12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come
salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power
of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which
accused them before our God day and night. 12:11 And they overcame
him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony;
and they loved not their lives unto the death.12:12 Therefore
rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the
inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come
down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he
hath but a short time. [A PLACE PREPARED IN THE TIME OF THE END ];

SO IT APPEARS THE FIRST CREATION HAD NO HEAVENLY NAME?

John 17:1-26; Jesus was with God before the world was. Col.1:15-17;
Rev.3:12,14; Jesus will have the heavenly with him [ John 14:3; a
place prepared, that where Jesus is there they may be also ];

DANIEL'S TIME OF THE END PROPHECY Dan.12:1-13 [ Rev.12:7-12 ];

Daniel year 3460 [ Babylon Empire #3, 606 B. C., Rome world Empire #6 ]:
Daniel gives;
2300, 2500, 2520, 2580, 2670 [ now 2613 from Empire #3 ], less 606 B. C.
1694, 1894, 1914, 1974, 2064 [ now 2007 from Empire #6 ]. Plus 606 B. C.

2217 ------------------------------------------------- PUBLISHED BIBLE IN WORLD.
2300 [ 1150, 1250, 1260, 1290, 1335, twice Dan.25:7 ]; bible in circulation.
2500 bible and Michael Dan.12:1-12; Jude 9; protects WORD, 2Cor.4:3,4;
2520 Rev.12:3,4,6-11,12; Satan's short time in the time of the end at WW1.
_______ Rev.9:1-5 [5x 30 = 150 ];Pit open for Satan, God's sealed are there.
2580 60 years of Satan's short time, Michael 7 WORD 363 years, Vietnam. Eze.4:6;
_______ 380 bible, Rev.9:12-16 [ 391 ]; 16:12-16 [ Euphrates area ] 396, 2007 C.E.
2613 93 years of Satan's short time. Michael & WORD. Rm.16:20; Mk 13:27;
------- Satan down, heavenly raised up John 6:39,40,44; 1Thes.4:15-17; end.
____ 6130 and Rev.20:1-6,12,13; no Satan 1000 years SAVED at 7130 years

2007-10-30 13:41:38 · answer #9 · answered by jeni 7 · 0 2

No, the question is whether angels or Jesus are being referred to in the Old Testament when no name is given.

For instance, the commander of the army of the LORD in Joshua 5 may be the preincarnate Jesus or Michael it is unclear but it is certainly one of the two.

2007-10-30 13:22:06 · answer #10 · answered by Holy Holly 5 · 0 5

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