Catholics, do you reject Transubstantiation?

Question

The average Catholic is vague concerning the nature of the "Eucharistic presence of Christ", and one can sympathize with them, in view of the lack of clear teaching.

Protestants reject transubstantiation, and so do many Catholic scholars.

What are your views?

Answer 1

Although geared to Catholics,I'll answer nonetheless.Irish gave you an honest answer.The fact is that most Catholics haven't a clue to what that doctrine is in totality.A "priest" is transformed into Jesus Christ when doing that pagan ritual prior to the bread and wine mystically changing into blood and flesh.They can deny it,but that is precisely what that doctrine and ritual is all about.Lutherans soften it up on the blood and flesh aspect and call it Consubstantiation.Both are unbiblical practices.

Answer 2

The Catechism of the Catholic Church makes the assumption that the man-made bread of the Eucharist has become Divine. This being the case, the Catholic Church teaches that the Eucharist is worthy of the same respect and adoration due God. This tightly held belief extends beyond the walls of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Catechism goes as far as stating that the whole world needs to participate in Eucharistic worship. This Catholic teaching, that the True God has been reincarnated into an object that looks like bread made by human hands, is a dangerous assumption. The Catechism clearly mandates Eucharistic worship, whereas, the Bible strictly forbids it.

Answer 3

Certainly not, that would be rejecting the foundation of Christianity which is Christ. There is no ambiguity in the teaching of the Church for 2000 years the teaching has been the same. Who are these Catholic scholars you speak of?

Here are my views and teaching on the Eucharist:

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-S6YMuFYyaa9ESBoW5DFwEjL_HhqA;_ylt=AtHS7U_vmu_59_F4H5EhHYqkAOJ3

In Christ
Fr. Joseph

Wally,

This is not an assumption that it becomes His Body and Blood but is the teaching of Christ in John 6 and in the Gospels recording His teaching at the last supper. The elements do become Christ fully in divinity, body and soul just as He said. There was no ambiguity in His teaching , of that He made sure, so those that disbelieve in His miracle have no appeal to ignorance in ignoring His commandment. Of course the Eucharist is worthy of the same respect and adoration because it IS God. Of course the whole world needs the Eucharist; Christ said that unless we eat His Body and drink His Blood we have no life in us. Where in the Bible does it say that we are NOT to worship God or that worshiping God is forbidden? Just to save you some time looking, its not there.

Answer 4

Well, your bending our beliefs a little. The Scriptures fully agknowledge the the Real Presence of Christ in The Eucharist. We do recognize his death, ressurection and ascension as valid, also. But he also, seperately becomes the Eucharist. Being God, he can do what ever he wants. He can bend the laws of nature and physics. He is fully in Heaven seated at the Right of the Father. And every Mass, the Eucharist becomes him. You have to have faith. Jesus told us he would be with us always, in the Eucharistic and also Spiritual form he is. At passover, it was customary for Jews to consume the Sacrificed Lamb. To us, continuing our celebration of Passover at every Mass, Jesus is that Lamb. In the New Testament it refers many times to the Holy Lamb. The belief in transubstantiation requires more faith, and shows how much power God actually has, that he can do that. God is almighty. Jesus even refers to Manna when talking about the Eucharist. Manna was supposedly holy Bread that the Jews would eat in the Old Testament. Here, we have the Eucharist. Its pretty pointless to even try to argue with you or tell you our point, because you will disregard our answers anyway and pay more attention to the answerers who answered the question like you wanted.

Answer 5

As most dogmas it is in a manner of speaking easy to explain but almost impossible to comprehend...

As God is in his own domain above reason and rational thought[at times],too much for our little minds and intellects.
So we have faith,as to pay him(God)the homage of our reason.
However,the dogma(unchangable truth)of the eucharist after consecration / transubstantiation truly becomes the body, blood,soul and divinity of Christ as believed by the Church.

Answer 6

The teachings on transubstantiation are quite clear; I know of no Catholic scholars who seriously question it. The Biblical bases for it in the Gospels are very apparent - it's based on Christ's words at the last supper and after the Resurrection.
I suppose one could sympathize with your lack of knowledge in this area as your particular denomination is likely only a few decades old and as such is lacking in universities, rigorous scholarship, advanced theology, and a few thousand years of belief and practice. As we no longer sell indulgences, why don't you accept Transubstantiation and return to the fold?

Answer 7

No I do not reject it, but I do question it as I am learning and studying on my own.

What I do know so far is this. The Catholic Church teaches infallibly that Christ is present through transubstantiation. As the Council of Trent says, and the Catechism of the Catholic Church repeats: “. . . by the consecration of the bread and wine there takes place a change of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the body of Christ our Lord and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of his blood. This change the holy Catholic Church has fittingly and properly called transubstantiation.

The dogma of transubstantiation teaches that the whole substance of bread is changed into that of Christ’s body, and the whole substance of wine into that of his blood, leaving the accidents of bread and wine unaffected. Reason, of course, can’t prove that this happens. But it is not evidently against reason either; it is above reason. Our senses, being confined to phenomena, cannot detect the change; we know it only by faith in God’s word.

IRiSh

Answer 8

There is no lack of clear teaching about transubstantiation ... just a lack of understanding.

1376 The Council of Trent summarizes the Catholic faith by declaring: "Because Christ our Redeemer said that it was truly his body that he was offering under the species of bread, it has always been the conviction of the Church of God, and this holy Council now declares again, that by the consecration of the bread and wine there takes place a change of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the body of Christ our Lord and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of his blood. This change the holy Catholic Church has fittingly and properly called transubstantiation."

1413 By the consecration the transubstantiation of the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ is brought about. Under the consecrated species of bread and wine Christ himself, living and glorious, is present in a true, real, and substantial manner: his Body and his Blood, with his soul and his divinity (cf. Council of Trent: DS 1640; 1651).

http://ccc.scborromeo.org.master.com/texis/master/search/?sufs=0&q=transubstantiation&s=SS

Answer 9

Transubstantiation is not Biblical.

When Jesus blessed the bread and wine and gave it to his disciples, saying that it was his body and blood, he was still alive.

It was intended to be a constant reminder to the disciples and baptised followers later that Jesus had died for their sins.
It was a supreme sacrifice that would enable men and women to have their sins blotted out if they were of a humble and contrite heart and obeyed the Lord God.

Answer 10

hocus pocus.....it's a lot of nonsense.

I grew up a catholic.. (i was an altar boy too)....It's one of the less intelligent and most corrupt religions.

Jesus is OK though....He would definitely not be a catholic.

Catholic doctrine is mostly fabrication and lies...made up for Political reasons 100's of years after Jesus died..He did not say any of that stuff in in the Bible.

Yahweh is similar to George Bush and should be tried as a war criminal if he was available.

He is the one who created the Middle East crisis that continues today.

Promising the Jews that land..If they kill their neighbors..

Crazy stuff....Jesus would not want any part in...and all those evil,sex mad Popes.

Just say NO.