The tree of knowledge was supposed to kill us, but didn't......?

Question

So god lied in order to make us not eat from it.

Christians claim that we have become mortal (by soul or flesh) and need to be redeemed by the blood of JC.

But they're wrong....in the story, it is meant to be a lie .

This fact can bring down Christianity on its own.....

Maybe some people will ask-whats the question?...
Its,- do you agree? Why?

What? It did kill us'...What?

We became mortal?...... We once were immortal?

You don't make any sense...
we were immortal....now we're not.....
but beleiving in christ will make our spirits immortal again?
I thought it was the soul....
You never explain anything.....

Answer 1

It is psychological metaphor and very profoundly significant.

Adam/Eve died to their authentic nature - the innocent Self. The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is about each of us (the vulnerable feminine creator aspect of mind) being tempted - to believe in others ideas about duality, ie. what is good/bad about us and the world - in order to have the power of creation. Of course it is always a lie, but Adam (masculine reason) slept. By the time our thinking brain is on line this duality is a permanent part of our psychological (conditioned) identity and belief system.

The belief that we've made a fatal error - are fatally flawed in some obscure way - shames us out of our innocent awareness of being and joy; the authentic Self becomes buried under layers of defensive beliefs/ego illusions.

The second part of the story - the Tree of Eternal Life (Aliveness) cannot be ingested until we reenter the Garden through the gate guarded by the cherubim (innocent Self) with the flaming sword of purification. We CAN get back, but the conditioned defensive identity has to be discarded (cut/burned away).

The story of Cain killing Abel is also symbolic of our internal battle between effortless being and the ego's jealous efforts which annihilate the authentic 'natural' Self. The mark of Cain is the defensive ego identity that we present to the world.

Answer 2

In the bible it says,

"And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

I see this entirely as a metaphor (and something found a LOT in the bible - people seem to take some things far too literally when they shouldn't be). This is basically saying:

You may eat of any of the trees in the garden, except for the Tree of Knowledge. If you eat from the Tree of Knowledge, you will no longer be "immortal" (to live in the Garden, as was seemingly planned), but rather be cast forth and die. "For in the day" does not imply a single day or a moment, but rather a period of transition - no longer being in the Garden (and again, seemingly immortal) could be considered death of the flesh. Outside of the Garden, and of God's wishes (as implied within the text), one is but human and will die. Honestly, the Tree of Knowledge is entirely subjective depending on your perception and interpretation of the text as it stands. As usual, however, it's most probably metaphorical.

I do not really feel that this was meant as a lie, on God's part, because I see no inherent dishonesty here. The point is there and the point is clear. I definitely would not place all of my eggs into one basket to support the fact that you believe this argument is strong enough to bring down Christianity - because it's not. There are definitely some other things that are capable of this (or at least severely changing the views of most modern Christians), but many (regardless of how clear the evidence is) will refuse to "see the light" no matter what.

Answer 3

unquestionably, the Genesis account would not coach that those bushes had any abnormal or supernatural powers of their own. somewhat, they have been actually bushes that God ???? invested with symbolic meaning. do no longer human beings do something comparable at cases? working example, a choose could warn against the crime of performing in contempt of court docket. it isn't the furniture, furniture, and partitions of the court docket itself that the choose needs to guard from disrespect however the gadget of justice that the court docket represents. varied monarchs too have used the scepter and the crown as symbols of their sovereign authority. What, then, did the two bushes signify? Many complicated theories have been placed forward. the real answer, at the same time as straightforward, is extremely profound. The tree of the certainty of stable and undesirable represented a privilege it is God’s province by myself—the astounding to confirm what's stable and what's undesirable. (Jeremiah 10:23) No ask your self it grew to become right into a criminal offense to scouse borrow from that tree! The tree of existence, on the different hand, represented a cutting-edge that in the time of straightforward terms God can bestow—eternal existence.—Romans 6:23.

Answer 4

No. We all WILL die. What is easily misinterpreted is that it will kill you IMMEDIATELY if you eat of its fruit and it is not so. You cannot honestly say you are immortal. Sure, your soul is technically immortal and the "DEATH" that is referred to is the first and second deaths. EVERYONE will go through the first death. We would never have had to if we had not eaten of that fruit. The second death is saved for sinners. That is the eternal punishment by "unquenchable fire". So, God did not lie. He never said it will kill you on the spot did He? No, but now we will die AT SOME POINT. See?

Answer 5

It was both a spiritual death and a mortal death. We gave up immortality for the privilege of saying we did the only thing we weren't supposed to.
Stomping our little feet and throwing a temper tantrum, just like today, Waaaaahhhhhh, but I don't wannna not steal. U can't tell me what not to do. Jus cus u created me and every atom of every being and celestial body, I know better than u, cus I'm so smart. I know everything n u don't know nuthin, waaah.

Answer 6

God and Jesus both didn't say anything for anyone to take literally if you actually read the bible of all versions of Christianity (mainly the Roman Catholic one because it is the main one that has existed before Protestant) you can see that Jesus explained and told things by story and never told it straight on. so like the others said God didn't mean that they would die right away but just die eventually. if they had never had fallen into temptation from the snake they would still be alive and next to God's wonderful garden

Answer 7

This is a very deep question, best answered by the theologian and anthropologist Rene Girard.

he showed the competition that develops from a common human desire that is unreachable (described in Genesis as the desire to be like God), which leads to a buildup of competition and tension in societies, which leads to a search for a scapegoat and sacrifice, which we know today to be murder.

he claims this ritual sacrifice is the basis of all civilisation, it is what separated the early humans from the animal world.

Answer 8

Adam is threatened with death in case of disobedience: Dying thou shalt die, denoting a sure and dreadful sentence, as, in the former part of this covenant, eating thou shalt eat, denotes a free and full grant. Observe [1.] Even Adam, in innocency, was awed with a threatening; fear is one of the handles of the soul, by which it is taken hold of and held. If he then needed this hedge, much more do we now. [2.] The penalty threatened is death: Thou shalt die, that is, "Thou shalt be debarred from the tree of life, and all the good that is signified by it, all the happiness thou hast, either in possession or prospect; and thou shalt become liable to death, and all the miseries that preface it and attend it.’’ [3.] This was threatened as the immediate consequence of sin: In the day thou eatest, thou shalt die, that is, "Thou shalt become mortal and capable of dying; the grant of immortality shall be recalled, and that defence shall depart from thee. Thou shalt become obnoxious to death, like a condemned malefactor that is dead in the law’’ (only, because Adam was to be the root of mankind, he was reprieved); "nay, the harbingers and forerunners of death shall immediately seize thee, and thy life, thenceforward, shall be a dying life: and this, surely; it is a settled rule, the soul that sinneth, it shall die.’’

Answer 9

In the beginning God said you shall not eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge or you shall surely die. He did not specify when they would die. Both Adman and Eve died. Also disobey God's single command created sin and caused separation between humans and God. in that one act we had both spiritual death and the cause of physical death.

Only a sinless being can be with God in heaven so with Jesus Christ sacrifice (Death and Resurrection) could humans be able to be with God if we are willing to accept it.

Answer 10

No it can't. Christianity is a beast without a head. It feels no pain, and never stumbles even when the most perfect obstacles are placed in its path.
I believe one day the world will be of two minds:
Atheist and Deist
But until that time, we will have to endure the beast, and try our best to trip it up as it chases after every single person it can corrupt with its deadly illogic.