Military base in E.Germany. Declared not valid passport. Confusion in the laws on citizenship after the collapse of the USSR. Because of this, I can not to travel within the country and abroad. How can I get a passport stateless persons (or Travel Document or Nansen passport) to leave Russia? In what country's embassy, I can turn to my problem? Where more liberal? I am tired of fighting with Russian emigration services. Nonsense - Russian law on citizenship is not tied to national identity. You probably remember about this old French film ( "The law is, the law" with Fernandel) I like a hero of this film, anecdote ...I am not necessary to Russia, but other country has more. Sorry for my terrible English
2007-10-30 09:52:52 · 3 answers · asked by Chonkin 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
Okay, so let's start with this. You were born in
East Germany (there is no East Germany today - it's just Germany now). What country issues your birth certificate? Is it Russia or Germany? If it is Germany, then you probably could get German citizenship. If not, then Russia is your only choice.
I fail to see why this is a problem. I don't know the issues surrounding citizenship laws in Russia (I am Canadian), but I would imagine if you were born on a military base, you should be considered a citizen of the country the based was operated by. Were your parents Russian citizens? Or were they citizens of another country in the USSR? These are things you must know in order to get a passport.
2007-10-30 10:24:32 · answer #1 · answered by Shayna 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
How long have your parents been in Eastern Germany before your birth? How long did you live in E. Germany? Do you speak German?
If your parents have been in East Germany for more than 8 years before your birth apply for German citizenship and passport at the German embassy. It is a very very small chance, though. I know German citizenship law, and I am quite sure your birth in E. Germany did not give you German citizenship, but it can't hurt to ask.
The Russian authorities should be able to issue you a Nansen Passport/Travel Document based upon your USSR passport, the East German birth certificate and documents from your parents. (Yeah, yeah, nice theory, I know!) Nansen passports are normally issued by the country of residence, so if you live in Russia right now they are responsible for you. You cannot get a Travel Document from another country. (Sorry for the bad news).
Your best chance is to apply for a passport at all possible countries. You need to clear up whether you hold a citizenship at all.
BTW, I am interested in your case. Would you please email me? My grandfather was stateless too.
2007-10-30 18:34:08 · answer #2 · answered by t_maia2000 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Apply for a German citizenship because you were born not in Russia and it is the reason why you are being denied by the Russian Immigration Services.
2007-10-30 17:14:14 · answer #3 · answered by FRAGINAL, JTM 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋