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"They went out from us, but they were not of us" (1 John 2;19); "Who is a liar, but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denies the Father, and the Son" (1 John 2:22); "And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus, is not of God; and this is Antichrist" (1 John 4:3); "For many seducers are gone out into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh: this is a seducer and an Antichrist" (2 John 7). Also the time, the Apostle places the coming of Antichrist at "the last hour" (1 John 2:18); again he maintains that "he is now already in the world" (1 John 4:3).

this to me descibes perfectly the WT&TS; Satan's true organization on earth

Am I correct

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01559a.htm

2007-10-30 09:28:56 · 8 answers · asked by Wondering Faith 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

so papa that would be yes then ?

2007-10-30 09:39:38 · update #1

19jay63 : your comments assume 1 antichrist .. John states there will be many.. as for the Roman Church being so .. I cant speak to that .. I can use this as an example as to how off the mark the WT&TS is .. using your own words would the jw enfource the mark .. believe the deceived followers would do anything the Governing body told them to. no question no thought

2007-10-30 10:25:02 · update #2

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I agree with you. WT & TS = Satan's true organization on earth. But members do not know that they are on the wrong. They have still time. I hope they do.

2007-11-02 08:30:57 · answer #1 · answered by Nina, BaC 7 · 4 0

Jesus issued a warning when he told us: "Then if anyone says to you, 'Look! Here is the Christ,' or 'There!' do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. Look! I have forewarned you."

The time Jesus was referring to as, "then," will be during the tribulation. Jesus had just foretold that God's holy place would become desolated and the tribulation cut short, and "then" the false Christs and false prophets are to appear.

Notice, too, that the false Christs would perform great wonders and exhibit powerful portents so that even the chosen ones could be influenced by the deception if they did not heed Jesus' warning. That's exactly what Paul also foretold; namely, that the man of lawlessness would perform "every powerful work and lying signs and portents."

While Satan the Devil has always sought to mislead mankind away from Jehovah God, with more or less success, his most powerful acts of deception are reserved for the end of the world. That's because he already has in place the phony ideology and religious and political apparatus to thoroughly deceive the whole world at the critical stage of Christ's arrival like a thief in the night.

2007-11-01 22:07:05 · answer #2 · answered by keiichi 6 · 0 1

Antichrist means against or instead of Christ. The term applies to all who deny what the Bible says about Jesus Christ, all who oppose his Kingdom, and all who mistreat his followers. It also includes individuals, organizations, and nations that falsely claim to represent Christ or that improperly ascribe to themselves the role of Messiah.
1 John 2:18: “Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour.”
2 John 7: “Many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.” (Notice that the “many antichrists” of 1 John 2:18 are here referred to collectively as “the antichrist.”)
Some of those identified as antichrist—
Persons who deny that Jesus is truly the Messiah
1 John 2:22: “Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ [or, Messiah, anointed one]? This is the antichrist.”
All who deny that Jesus is the unique Son of God
1 John 2:22: “This is the antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son.”
Compare John 10:36; Luke 9:35.
Apostates
1 John 2:18, 19: “There have come to be many antichrists . . . They went out from us, but they were not of our sort.”
Those who oppose Christ’s true followers
John 15:20, 21: “If they have persecuted me, they will persecute you also . . . But they will do all these things against you on account of my name.”

2007-10-30 16:35:57 · answer #3 · answered by Just So 6 · 2 1

It would be extremely surprising if the organization that Satan picked to control the world at end times was a small marginalized church like the JW's. I seriously doubt that the JW's will be the ones who forbid people to buy or sell unless they are worshipped. I can not see the JW's enforcing the "mark of the beast" and threatening the entire world with death if they do not receive the "mark". Can You?

Think much bigger. Your above diatribe sounds a lot like anti-JW propaganda. Although JW's may not have their religion in line with biblical principles, they are not looking to take over the world any time soon. In order for the whole world to wonder after and worship the beast, Satan will use a much more mainstream entity. Remember, wide is the way, broad is the path that leads to destruction. The path of the JW is much too narrow.

In Bible prophecy, a woman represents a church. A pure woman, a pure church. An adulterous woman, an impure church.

What mainstream, "mother of harlots" church arose out of the Roman empire some 1500 years ago, after the fall of pagan Rome, slew the saints of the most high, arose in the midst of Europe, blasphemes God by claiming His perogative to forgive sins, blends paganism with christianity, tried to change the 10 Commandments, encourages Sun worship, seeks to replace Christ with a false system of priests and mass mimicking Christ's High Priestly ministry, has been around since Paul's day, received a deadly wound in 1798 when the head of the church was taken captive, started healing the wound in 1929 when the church received back its power and land, has been growing into power ever since and is now powerful enough to enforce its mark, the "mark of the beast upon every person in the world.

The list could go on and on, but I believe any sincere seeker will be able to identify the "mother of harlots", "Babylon the great", the "mistry of iniquity", the "antichrist" who indoctrinates her daughter churches with her false, unbiblical teachings.

2007-10-30 16:58:28 · answer #4 · answered by 19jay63 4 · 1 3

No.

Jehovah's Witnesses are unique for their rejection of paganisms, use of God's personal name, and global preaching by every active adherent. No other religious organization can claim such purity of worship.

These facts about Jehovah's Witnesses are perhaps relevant to this question. The more one compares this Christian religion with others, the more remarkable it is shown to be.

1. Jehovah's Witnesses have no paid clergy. Yet they remain tightly organized with more than 6.5 million active Jehovah's Witness preachers (about 16 million associate themselves with the religion). Even fulltime preachers and workers at their branch offices are unpaid volunteers.

2. There is no elite class among Jehovah's Witnesses. Even the few 'anointed' among them enjoy no special privileges in their congregations on earth. An anointed person (one of those relative few with a heavenly hope) is not elevated above his fellow congregants in any way, and he may not even qualify for appointment as a simple 'deacon' or elder. There are no titles; EVERYONE is addressed as 'brother' or 'sister'.

3. No person benefits economically from the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses. Even the 8 to 20 men who serve on their Governing Body receive simply room, board, medical care, and reimbursement for certain personal expenses according to the exact same provision as every other branch volunteer.

4. About a hundred men have served on Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body committee during the past 125 years or so. The vast majority of them have spent the vast majority of their adult lives volunteering for their organization's purposes, and the vast majority have died faithfully and near-pennilessly while still under their legal 'vow of poverty'.

5. Amazingly, Jehovah's Witnesses did not splinter as a sect from some other religion. Instead, a truly tiny but sincere group of bible students studied only the Scriptures to determine the will of God. Thus their religion remains absolutely independent of and not carrying the sins of Christendom's history, yet carries the authority of Christ's teachings.

6. Despite the distortions of anti-Witnesses, throughout their modern history Jehovah's Witnesses have refused to claim divine inspiration or infallibility for their teachings. They have pointed to the bible (and not any particular translation) as the only inspired infallible means of knowing God's thoughts. For over 125 years, their teachings have been presented as merely the results of sincere bible research by imperfect but godly humans.


Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/jt/index.htm?article=article_07.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/20040601/article_02.htm
http://jw-media.org/people/who.htm
http://jw-media.org/people/statistics.htm

2007-11-01 16:25:07 · answer #5 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 0 1

(Matthew 7:13-14)13 “Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.

there are about 6-7 billion people and 7+ million Jehovah's Witnesses...............hmmmmmmmmmm
that must mean the have found the road leading off into life since few are the ones finding it.

2007-10-30 17:32:02 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

I'm not JW....but you described nothing....just copied and posted a bunch of scriptures that are not in order and are taken out of context.

The little P symbols in the bible means it's a different story being told.

2007-10-30 16:33:12 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

they twist that for their own good, and laugh mockingly

2007-10-30 16:32:04 · answer #8 · answered by K in Him 6 · 1 5

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