If "marriage" as a term were removed, but all national and international rights of marriage were granted to same-sex couples who had undergone a civil union, would you oppose such legislation? Why or why not?
(See earlier question for reference: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071030115913AA6FlPA&r=w )
2007-10-30 08:25:09 · 19 answers · asked by NHBaritone 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
JC: I get 110 characters to ask a complex question. If I write "SOME," it doesn't add anything to the content, it takes away precious word space, and it would rob you of the opportunity to express your self-righteous attitude. Thus, I doubt I will often follow your advice, and you should thank me for it. ;-)
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2007-10-30 08:34:03 · update #1
You miss the REAL purpose of this whole issue for fundamentalist Christians.
It's not about ensuring ALL families get the same rights, including gay families.
It is about seeing if they can set a precident in government where laws are made based soley on the religious beliefs and traditions they have.
If they can bend the Constitution on this, then they can get other "Christian" laws passed. That's the REAL fight. That's why they still disapprove of civil unions, even if the term "marriage" is not used.
It is giving a group of people they consider especially sinful according to THEIR interpretation of scripture leeway and legal recognition. It is a slap in their face. They want the government to HATE who THEY hate. They want those who THEY hate to have a hard, painful life and be forced to convert and support their money making ex-gay camps.
If gay people could enjoy legally recognized unions and stable, happy family life, their entire quality of life and acceptance by society would improve.
Fundamentalist Christians do not want this! They do not want their kids going to school with kids who have gay parents and having to see it. They do not want to be FORCED to treat gay people like everyone else.
Try to see beyond the surface of the battle.
But fortunately, not all Christians are like that.
2007-10-30 08:31:45 · answer #1 · answered by pixie_pagan 4 · 2⤊ 4⤋
As a Christian, my objection is the State's involvement in the TERM "marriage" at all. To the State, "marriage" is nothing more than contract law.
Personally, if the State wants to use the term "civil union" to refer to all legally binding cohabitation agreements governing inheritance, powers of attorney transfer, and taxation, I would not be opposed.
As long as they don't limit me to one spouse (of any gender I choose) - because that would be undue interference. I should be able to make such "civil unions" with as many people as I can talk into it. Now, when we're talking "marriage," that should be under the pervue of my religion (which currently only lets me have one spouse).
2007-10-30 15:41:34 · answer #2 · answered by jbtascam 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'd support legislation for same-sex MARRIAGE. I believe in equal rights for everyone not just some.
And really... how can the government claim separation of church and state on this and not grant same-sex marriages? Is marriage a legal institution or a religious one? If it's religious why am I being taxed for being married? Why does the government require marriage licenses and why can people get married by a judge? Sounds like a legal institution to me... So how can they not offer equal rights?
Sorry, rant over... for now.
2007-10-30 22:19:18 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I believe in equal civil rights for all people, including gays who want to get married. Absolutely.
I don't believe, however, that the government should be able to force churches to perform such marriages, as that imposes the government's will upon the church.
2007-10-30 15:29:32 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Nope, I could care less what they do. I believe that their lifestyle is sinful, but they have the right to do it. What I DON'T agree with, is redefining marriage so that it fits every situation. Marriage is a holy union between a man and a woman recognized by God. I have no issues with a civil union or any other name they want to call it by and I have no issues with gay and lesbian partners having rights to care for and share their live's possessions with one another.
2007-10-30 15:34:39 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
I'm wondering if all these people who are concerned about churches having to perform gay marriage ceremonies know that churches are not obligated to perform marriage ceremonies for anyone. The Catholic Church, for example, will only marry Catholics. Churches and the like are not required to marry anyone now, why would anything change?
2007-10-30 15:37:39 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
The Bible clearly shows that same-sex relationships are a sin. God destroyed Sodom and Gamora for pure immorality. Civil union is nothing more that giving rights to same-sex couples. Again in the eyes of God...same-sex relationships are sinful. The word "marriage" in the eyes of God is a man and a woman...
Legislation that gives rights to same-sex couples just goes to show that our country is going to hell in a hand-basket..and fast. God is taken out of school already. He's been taken out of courts..remember the Alabama judge forced to remove the 10 commandments from his court room (yet they still swear you in on the Bible..go figure). Pretty soon there will come a time when worshipping God period is illegal. They still print in God we trust on our money..when they don't even believe in God anymore. Pretty sad if you ask me.
2007-10-30 15:34:55 · answer #7 · answered by Rin 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Please be sure to include in such questions "some" Christians. I know many Christians who are not opposed to civil unions.
As a Christian myself, I think we cannot deny people basic human rights. Even people who are in jail have (and should have) some basic human rights and those who are law abiding citizens of course should have even more human rights.
***UPDATE***
Self-Righteous? I simply said, "please." You are free to do whatever you want and I understand that. There is just too much stereotyping and over generalizing and simplification in R&S about theists and atheists alike.
2007-10-30 15:30:15 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
no. Personally, gay people have every right to get into a relationship. why just because their anatomy is the same, they should not be allowed to be in a relationship. I know its not gonna get you to have kids, but many married straight couples never have kids. And on top of this all, thats like saying blacks cant marry whites.
2007-10-30 15:31:52 · answer #9 · answered by boris t 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I'm a Christian, and I've never opposed civil unions, gay rights, or same-sex marriage.
2007-10-30 15:32:58 · answer #10 · answered by solarius 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋