well i happen to know for a fact that most of them do pay taxes. they cannot claim taxes because only one person can claim per ssn. so in order to get a job they think of 9 numbers off the top of their heads. then they pay taxes just like all the other workers. so how do they get a tax return and where do you think it goes? next of all. I live in a county where the welfare line is outragous. you have to wait 3 hours in order to talk to a case worker. there is about 1% mexicans. then about 95% is white american. 80% of white americans standing in line are on drugs. i am no expert but i have common sense and eyes to see what is going on around me.
2007-10-30 07:53:15 · 35 answers · asked by antis with atole for brains 2 in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
like i said i live in a low income county. 5 mexican children in a class of 21. so i happen to live and work and do all sorts of buisness in a highly populated hispanic county
2007-10-30 08:05:30 · update #1
umm b moc i actually know that they do. my husband's boss was helping them do that...............................margaret sorry i can't round up all the proof but if u wanna see proof take a look around and immerse yourself like i did.
2007-10-30 08:10:08 · update #2
ok i didn't say it was right that they are using someone else's ssn. and i am still in the ring. so no i'm not poking and running. and i could give a $hit less if i irritate a racist or a mexican....my question was about taxes and (welfare). my bad here we call it Department of Social and Health Services. aka welfare
2007-10-30 08:26:45 · update #3
no i am not illegal. and i asked based on life experience why people think the way they do. sorry if experience isn't good enough for u. personally i would prefer to have my hair cut by someone with more experience than someone that has barely any
2007-10-30 08:33:28 · update #4
oh sorry marlene did some mexican take an agricultural job or a construction job from you and your family? if so sorry to hear that and maybe you shoulda read all my argument before calling me stupid. there are plenty of jobs going around. luckily for me i do speak spanish so i could get a higher paying job.
2007-10-30 08:39:25 · update #5
thank you roxane for your enlitenment but please do us all a favor don't believe everything you read in the news. it is people like you who did just that....now look who we have for pres. if maybe people could get out and see things for their own eyes instead of biasing on other peoples opinions and falsifications maybe i could argue with a smart group. p.s. the ones who say i should get a job, look who's talkin. well u see my taxpaying husband works so i don't have to. and no i'm not on welfare any more thanx to marriage to a hard workin man.
2007-10-30 08:47:03 · update #6
thank you for those who did show statistics. whether for or against me i appreciate the thought. and for the people who agree thank you the most for showing me there are people able to use brain cells for more than pointing fingers in the wrong direction.
2007-10-30 08:52:24 · update #7
umm satan honestly if your daughter was on here would u want her to list her area? anyway check out what links livin was nice enough to put up.any way research your own area. don't get mad i haven't YET checked the links on the opposing side...
2007-10-30 09:07:47 · update #8
you are right about illegal is illegal. raping a child is illegal yet they wander the streets with little punishment. i personally don't care if you illegaly stole your purse from value village or claimed your child is younger so you can get a free meal from the buffet. or enterd illegaly. i prefer the later 3 as opposed to dangerous people walking the streets. any way again the point is about taxes and welfare not the illegal things that they and we do.
2007-10-30 09:15:29 · update #9
thank you marleen to the irrelevent link. why didn't you read my question first? that woulda saved you from answering a question that i didn't even ask. so who are you calling stupid anyway.
2007-10-30 09:23:46 · update #10
biwagirl look who's talkin. you can't get straighter than experience. p.s. with an avtar like that it is hard to take you serious no offence.
2007-10-30 09:34:43 · update #11
tim i am whiter than your mom. and look who's talking before you insult me because you have nothing intellegent to say
2007-10-30 09:53:02 · update #12
yes peanut head i see it all the time from white girls too. what i hate is when i see white girls selling their stamps for drugs. makes me sick. oh and the pay stub thing i see my husband's pay stubs once a month. he gets 2 checks the 1st one the boss calls a draw and gives no pay stub yet takes 20% out admitingly. the 2nd shows how much he supposedly earned the second pay period plus the first draw. then after adding it up he then takes taxes out. it is the most confusing document i have ever seen. i have seen many different kinds of pay stubs. and no he isn't using a false ssn
2007-10-30 10:02:24 · update #13
Tim sorry the mom thing was low. no i am not happy because that is not at all the point i am trying to make please refer to the begining of the question. also note illegal is illegal. i agree but do read on.
2007-10-30 10:05:08 · update #14
thank you Trumain for your statistics. why doesn't it say anything about how much illegals pay without tax returns. did you look up the statistics of white people on welfare? just a thought. you don't have to go to far to look for how much taxrefundable immigrants are paying just look at the statistics live showed you. but how skilled were they if they lost their job to someone who can barely speak english and poor education?
2007-10-30 10:11:37 · update #15
sorry i meant to say livin.
2007-10-30 10:14:56 · update #16
because people on here are ignorant.
There are around 11-million undocumented workers across the nation according to the United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.
They will see state and federal tax returns, but they won't see a dime of social security or medicare that's taken out of their paychecks.
And, that money adds ups.
Almost 200-billion dollars were recorded under bad social security numbers or ITIN last year.
READ PEOPLE !!! I GAVE YOU THE LINKS PROVING THAT A LOT OF THEM PAY TAXES .....
WOW YOU GUYS DONT LIKE LINKS PROVING YOU WRONG DO YOU?
Satan-- why would she? she doesnt know anyone on here.. for all we know you can be a rapist!so it would be dangerous giving out that info.
DARKWOLF- yes there is a way for them to pay legally its called ITIN's.
2007-10-30 08:29:22 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 11⤋
Illegal Mexicans/immigrants are just that, illegal. They are not even in the system. Most people hiring them are paying them under the table. SO, there is no check issued and no taxes being paid. Yes, there are some that do pay taxes as an example of good citizenship, but that doesn't help the fact that there are still 11 million more illegals leaching off the system.. So lets continue to build special schools for all the illegals that don't speak any English and continue to take jobs from Americans because they are willing to do it for 1/10 the cost. SO, that WOULD be the reason you're seeing all those white Americans standing in the unemployment line! Educate yourself before you make stupid remarks.
Heres a link that should shed some light on your stupidly.
http://www.cis.org/topics/illegalimmigration.html#Publications
Response to your response:
You are missing the bigger picture of things. There are huge repercussions on this country that are directly resulted from anyone who hires an illegal. You opened the door to all of this by talking about the unemployment line…. I don’t think you understand just how big of an issue this is. Its not a simple matter of who is paying their taxes and who is not. The fact that you don’t understand how my earlier comment fits with your underlining comment shows just how little you know. Also, if you're going to post a question, make sure it’s an intelligent one and not one that attempts to answer itself.
2007-10-30 08:33:24 · answer #2 · answered by mar 4 · 7⤊ 1⤋
I can't believe you even went here. Where do you live??? Obviously not in a border state. And USING FAKE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS IS WRONG!!!!!!!!!! Can you say "IDENTITY THEFT?????" I don't care if it allows illegal mexicans to "pay taxes." All that does is mess up the life of an AMERICAN CITIZEN.
Come to California and go to the welfare office. Granted there are other races that are there, but I best believe there are more than 1% like where you come from. AND they do wait 3 hours to speak to a SPANISH SPEAKING case worker who promptly places them on welfare, WIC and other programs that they should not be entitled to SINCE THEY ARE ILLEGAL RESIDENTS OF THIS COUNTRY. And since their "working husbands" have jobs under FALSE SSNs, or are being paid under the table, they do not have to report that income to the DHHS.
Come to California and sit in a classroom where the mexican students NEVER HAVE TO LEARN ENGLISH because our stupid society does not require them to. Come to California where illegal mexicans do not have drivers licenses but can get loans to buy cars, obtain insurance and registration with the DMV. ITS ALL WRONG!!!
Come out here before you make statements such as the one you have here.
Illegal aliens, whether mexican or otherwise, are performing ILLEGAL ACTS and you are sitting here implying that its ok. Please wake up!
Step outside your small, ignorant box.
2007-10-30 08:58:26 · answer #3 · answered by babygirl07usa 2 · 6⤊ 1⤋
Just because you put down nine numbers as a ssn doesn't mean it suddenly corresponds to your name. If these people really were doing this, the people at the tax office would take one look at the document and give the employer a visit. No way thats actually whats happening.
Your ''statistics'' about 80% white people in line being on drugs is equally ludicrous, what? did you survey the people standing in line? did they give you urine samples or did you blood test them?
By the way, what are you doing on here when you should be out looking for a job?
2007-10-30 08:07:27 · answer #4 · answered by Hans B 5 · 9⤊ 2⤋
The key word here is "illegal" - not Mexicans, not Hispanics, not tax payers.... "illegal". A land has laws and breaking laws makes you a criminal. It's an awesome attestment to the morals of the people that live in the US that there aren't riots going on right now and that Americans are not choosing to break laws arbitrarily like illegal immigrants have done!
2007-10-30 08:21:34 · answer #5 · answered by subprimelendor 5 · 7⤊ 1⤋
Studies say about half of illegal immigrants pay taxes, primarily the visa overstayers. They take large deductions, and many claim for the income credit which is a further subsidy. School costs $10,000 per child per year, and with that benefit alone, from local taxes only, they are not paying what we are spending on them.
Statistics like '80% of white Americans standing in line are on drugs' do not add credibility to your argument.
2007-10-30 07:57:19 · answer #6 · answered by DAR 7 · 7⤊ 2⤋
The "random" 9 numbers they pick is not someone's lucky day in winning the lotter! It is identity theft! Anyway, the name doesn't match and the IRS know it's not right.
It doesn't matter if they pay taxes or not, they are illegal and need to go home and apply the right way.
Where is your sources for your statistics? I think you exaggerated them.
You are not any better today say "white american" in your statistics. Hmmm...I think you just used the same sterotype you are questioning about!!!!!!!!
2007-10-30 08:57:22 · answer #7 · answered by Workcompguru31 4 · 4⤊ 1⤋
We have our own business and I can tell you for a fact how the ssn works that they make up . We hired a guy that did just that,made up a number or stole it,who knows.
The IRS contacted us that he was using a fake ssn and we had to make copies of his ddl and ssn and fax them to them. The name he was using did not match the name of the ssn holder.
They keep a good eye on this apparently,and the guy only worked for us for 2 weeks.
So,if the ones you know are keeping the same job,then they are not paying taxes, or they have stolen a dead beat bumbs identity.
I don't know what county you live in but apparently you are not in my county,and must live in some hole in the wall town where they do not want to go because they cannot blend in with all the rest of them.
It doesn't sound like you know much!
2007-10-30 08:12:15 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 15⤊ 2⤋
The problem isn't so much that illegal immigrants don't pay taxes, it's that their employers don't. The employer makes profit by exploiting the illegal immigrant ie: not paying a fair wage, not providing health insurance, not paying taxes on their behalf. The employer is at fault when dealing with the financial dilemma involving illegal immigrants and non-taxation.
2007-10-30 07:59:04 · answer #9 · answered by Mizz SJG 7 · 5⤊ 2⤋
They don't pay all their taxes. It's impossible unless they are participating in identity theft. Apparently, as you mention multiple people using the same ssn's you say that they all engage in identity theft. You can't be employed by "thinking up 9 numbers out of your head". You are required by law to show your social security card. "Welfare" is a catchall phrase. Any government help is considered "welfare" and there are very few "welfare offices" anymore. The food banks, WIC programs, fuel assistance, electric assistance, etc. are all separate programs and must be applied for separately.
What you are saying certainly doesn't have the "ring of truth" to me. Especially as it's contrary to everything that I have observed working in a personnel department.
2007-10-30 08:05:25 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 10⤊ 2⤋
My mom works at the SocSec office and she says their upset significant others are always coming in to rat on them like saying that this person is an illegal and their SSN is false. Not all illegals rob the system, but there are those who do get false ID's and do.
2007-10-30 07:57:48 · answer #11 · answered by civil_av8r 7 · 7⤊ 1⤋