I was under the impression that Jesus is never mentioned by name in the Old Testament and that though there are references to a messiah, it's clear it is not Jesus.
Why do many Christians insist that Jesus IS mentioned, though? And in such a way that it's 'clear' it's him?
If I've got it all wrong, please do tell me! Thanks for your help.
2007-10-30 01:39:43 · 20 answers · asked by Anonymous in Travel ➔ Africa & Middle East ➔ Israel
you are not wrong. jesus is not mentioned at all in the OT. the references to a messiah do not remotely resemble jesus.
in fact, the whole idea of a messiah was changed by christianity (to make it more palatable to pagans whom they were trying to convert.)
the person of the messiah is not all that important. he is just the messenger. the important thing is the period of time, the messianic age. which we are not it, from all the predictions.
christians have to twist and mistranslate to find jesus in the OT, and leave out most of the prophecies concerning the messiah. the part that amuses me is that those are the same christians who prefer a literal reading of the bible. except when it doesn't suit them, of course.
2007-10-30 06:11:16 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 5⤋
Xians insist J*sus was mentioned in the Jewish Bible (we do not call it the OT), because it gives their religion more validity.
The TANAKH (Jewish Bible) is full of references concerning the REAL messiah:
* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
* The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
* Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
* There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
* All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
* Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
* The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
* The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
* Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
* The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
* He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
* Jews will know the Torah without study (Jeremiah 31:33, see also New Covenant)
* He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
* He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)
2007-10-30 19:47:04 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
It doesn't mention Jesus by name but Christians believe that Jesus' life and works fulfilled the prophecies about the messiah from books like Isaiah and Jeremiah etc..........
The OT says that the messiah will be called Immanuel .................
also the earliest OT manuscripts date to about 500 BC and Jesus name in the language of the time was Yehoshua (Joshua - a name which is obviously in the Bible - ) a name which means something like "God Saves" or "God (is) the Saviour" so maybe "Jesus" is what Christians called the guy whose birth name might well have been something different..........
2007-10-30 01:50:32 · answer #3 · answered by john n 3 · 3⤊ 2⤋
There is not a single mention of Jesus in the old testament seeing as he was born thousands of years after the old testament was written!
JOHN i have studied the old testament extremely well and have never come across the fact that the messiah will be called immanuel, where did you get that fact from?
2007-10-30 01:47:55 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 8⤊ 1⤋
i'm no longer attempting to criticize you, that record you've is about 2 or 3 grade analyzing complete factor. John a million-18 it is John the Baptist talking. Jhon changed into the voice putting ahead the arriving of the Messiah, no human being had considered the Messiah. KJV John a million-18 "No guy hath considered God at any time; the in easy words begotten Son, it is the bossom of the daddy, He hath declared Him." Did you bypass over ;the in easy words begotten Son. John the Baptist changed into talking about Jesus, and no human being had considered Jesus yet. This one i appreciate the Bible has unicorns in it. no one looks to maintain in mind that shepards shaped youthful goats horns so as that they might improve into one sharp immediately horn, for this reason unicorns, they did that because it made the goat some distance more advantageous effective adversarial to predators. Then Daniel rides a unicorn in a dream and it is mane changed into flowing, convinced male unicorn goats had manes. yet human beings imagine that's a mystical horse and hence Bible is a fairy tale. The unicorn billy goat had protecting powers for the herd and it changed into actual. were given to be careful the way you study the Bible and understand the cases they stay.
2016-10-23 03:49:09 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus is an English translation as I'm sure you know.
Because all the messianic prophecy's were fulfilled through Him.
The problem then and now is that, the Jews wanted the Lion of David, and instead got the Lamb of God.
He will return soon, look at the Hebrew Prophets and Israel's borders, and He will be the Lion, and His word will cut like a two edged sword.
2007-10-31 02:51:49 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
Read what G-D is saying about the issue 1400 years ago.
"The Jews said that the Christians follow nothing (i.e. are not on the right religion); and the Christians said that the Jews follow nothing (i.e. are not on the right religion); though they both recite the Scripture. Like unto their word, said (the pagans) who know not. Allah will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection about that wherein they have been differing"[Quran Surah 2 AlBaqarah :113]
2007-10-30 23:52:54 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
Some people believe that prophecies and writings in the Old Testament point to Jesus. Their proofs are usually based on mistranslations and selective reasoning. For example, the translate "young woman" as "virgin", which measn instead of "a young woman will give birth" (which makes sense) it becomes "a virgin will give birth" (which does not), etc.
2007-10-30 03:37:36 · answer #8 · answered by Michael J 5 · 3⤊ 3⤋
Jesus is just an ordinary name (there are people even today named Jesus), his name wasn't motioned in the Old Testament as just before he was born an angel came to Mary and told her that she will have a son, whom she should named Jesus.
Messiah on the other hand was mentioned in the Old Testament, and he was mentioned there many times. According to some researchers he was present even during the Genesis, when the world was created. As christian god is Trinity, and not a single person (not only God the Father, but also God the Son and God the Holy Spirit) while reading the Bible, every mentioning of the God we should understand in plural, so every time we have God mentioned, there is Jesus (Messiah) with him.
2007-10-30 01:58:35 · answer #9 · answered by Anna K 2 · 0⤊ 9⤋
Christians do not really read the "Old Testament" so they have no clue what it is all about. And when they do they read Christian translated versions of it which means verses are added, removed and words put in that are not in the Hebrew Tanakh. That is why I read a Jewish translation of the Tanakh
2007-10-30 05:56:04 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 4⤋