This article shows the old battling the new. I'm not taking the side of WND here, I posted it mainly to show what is going on:
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58405
The doctrines of old battling the wisdom of the new. Kind of like what I do. Though I wonder what's wrong with a purpose driven church? I believe we all forgot our purpose in christianity.
Just because this guy has a new age background right away he is bad... That doesn't jive with me.
What do you make of this? What are your opinions?
2007-10-30 00:22:05 · 12 answers · asked by Emperor Insania Says Bye! 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Fireball - short and sweet eh? ;-)
2007-10-30 06:33:08 · update #1
I read the article. It actually made me pretty angry! LOL I have to say I'm not that surprised though. Many of the "evangelical" bent today are incredibly liberal, and their doctrine is defunct. And that Rick Warren guy is right off the deep end....the purpose that drives his church is a big attendance and lots of social programs (I don't see that anywhere in Scripture, you know? it's just not there...our purpose is to make sure our church members love Christ with all their hearts even if there are only 40 of us). They want to bring in new age practices huh? May as well, their churches are full of unsaved sheep who are there to have their ears tickled by nice little sermonettes that are preached to increase people's self-esteem and do nothing for their spirituality.
As for these new teachings being "wise" and good old doctrine being "obsolete" I must disagree vehemently. These new teachings are blasphemous. Finding God isn't finding yourself - you are not God!!! These new teachings confuse people and lead them astray. And how, according to these new agers, do we deal with our sins? Sure, society has changed. It has always changed - life is about change, things don't stay the same for long. But human nature hasn't changed. We are still sinners, we just hate to hear someone tell us that we are sinners. That is the root of this. People don't like being told that their lifestyle is sinful - and in their minds that must mean that the Bible is wrong. They figure that God is in the wrong and they don't want to hear His voice anymore.
I feel so sorry for these poor fools. One day they will realize that they were wrong and by then it may be too late.
But there will always be a remnant of people who stay faithful to the old Bible and its old teachings. We see no reason to update to this new nonsense - God is enough for us, and His Bible is enough for us too. And it doesn't matter much to us what the rest of "christianity" is doing.....we will be faithful to God even if it means being ostracized and slandered.
I guess these people need to figure out what is more important to them: pleasing people and keeping up with the times, or being faithful to God and faithful to the Bible He has given us. I'm pretty sure I know what they will choose though.
2007-10-30 02:33:56 · answer #1 · answered by Blue Eyed Christian 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The church certainly needs to "keep up with the times." If the church still wore tunics and sandals,...well...it wouldn't work.
The Catholic church held onto Latin into the 1960's...what was up with that? Way out of touch with their followers.
But regarding your article, Schuller and company walk the slippery slope of heresy. Comments like, "there is no sin," are very dangerous.
I believe they are taking out all the unpopular things in the bible to make it more palatable to the masses. More people in the church, the more money. They focus only on the good (which is not bad unto itself), but by neglecting core of the gospel truth, they run the risk of misleading people right around salvation.
Jesus doesn't promise "no suffering, no trials, no temptation." Rather, the NT says things like, "WHEN trials of every kind come..." Not if, but when. The NT tells people not to focus on money, but the rethinkers want you to be rich.
Name it and claim it is not in the bible. God answers prayer, but the petitioners heart must be right, they must confess sin, they must not be bearing a grudge against their neighbor, they must be righteous, and they must ask according to the will of God. And what is that? That all be saved.
That is what the rethinkers are missing. God's will is not that every Christian be rich and successful. God's will is that everyone be saved. A slippery slope indeed.
2007-10-30 07:49:01 · answer #2 · answered by Richard F 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
For me personally, we got caught up in the warren purpose driven, then thankfully we woke up. It took a while, and now we see just how blind we were. Luckily when we saw warren and obama on stage singing the praises of condoms we knew at that point we were very lucky to come out from the spell of false teaching that warren has cast over our faith. I would tell anyone, stay away from any thing that rick warren has to do with.
2007-10-30 07:40:24 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
There will always be a change as religion evolves to fit the needs of the people, a purpose driven church as you mentioned is a new gimmick and label to sell a point to ones that need the purpose to go on, It's like jump on the band wagon!
2007-10-30 07:28:44 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
i didn't see anything in the article that made me think it was a bad idea.
i believe that we all need to rethink things once in a while. it's a good idea to look at things from a different perspective.
when we stop learning and growing we stagnate and die spiritually.
just my thoughts
bright blessings
2007-10-30 07:36:15 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
yeah... i'm not too crazy about it. when you said ''the winds of change are blowing,'' i thought you were referring to the restoration of the Church, not it's destruction/ perversion. it's kinda funny though... with the protestant reformation (which is ongoing, might i remind you), we've taken so many steps to get away from pagan influence. now this new ager wants to bring it right back. i don't like it one bit.
2007-10-30 07:36:46 · answer #6 · answered by That Guy Drew 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
ill stand with Jesus
sin is wrong..... will send you to hell
all sin
all sin
Jesus is the only way to heaven
you cannot save yourself
if you try you will fail and die in your sins and go to hell
trust Jesus for salvation
Rom 10:9-10
2007-10-30 07:28:23 · answer #7 · answered by jesussaves 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Yeh they have started giving cold shoulder to the idea of Adam sinned and all his generation being cursed. Because they feel that in that case they will be called murderer for killing so many red-indians.
2007-10-30 07:27:02 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 5⤋
Born again believers don't buy this type of thing as we know all too well that you can't update God!
2007-10-30 07:27:35 · answer #9 · answered by mandbturner3699 5 · 4⤊ 2⤋
I wondered what the draft was, shut that window! Its October!!
2007-10-30 07:27:27 · answer #10 · answered by james h 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋