(I am Christian) Okay atiests here you go, I have a question for you (strictly theological)?

Question

OK I understand the big bang idea. I understand why you think that with the red shift and all. So I will skip the crap. How do you think that the first atom got there? When you atheists are confronted with that you always say "Well Gods don't just appear do they?" but that would a stupid assumtion scientificaly speaking because God would be of matter not exposed to humans. And if you can't answer that then isn't atheism a faith?

Answer 1

I believe that true atheism takes faith anyway. Of course, you could also argue that believing ANYTHING takes faith, including the belief that you actually exist.

I don't know why any atheist would be afraid of the word "faith" merely for it's relevance to religion. Oh well.

So yes, I agree. Atheism (real atheism, IMHO) is a "faith."

~atheist~

Answer 2

Your question is logically flawed in two respects. First it conflates cosmology and theology. Second, it assumes that atheists are demanding are asking the same questions you are about existence and demanding the same answers. Both of these premises are unfounded.

Red shift and other celestial observations led scientists to infer the Big Bang by reasoning backwards. However, there's nothing in science that says what the initial event actually is, much less what if anything was there before that moment.

Any thoughts an atheist (or a theist for that matter) might have about what came before are pure speculation. I don't know what atheists assume, but there's no scientific evidence to support any notion of what started or preceded the Big Bang. Whether one believes it's God or the Flying Spaghetti Monster there's no science to support that belief.

Some atheists make the leap and infer that the lack of any evidence for a God implies the nonexistence of God, but that's just as flawed as the ID folks saying that because we don't see how an eye could have evolved that it must have been made intentionally. Both arguments make an inference based upon an absence of any evidence. Either way one has parted company with science and leapt into the realm of theology.

Also, the question assumes that all belief systems must answer the same questions. Because Christianity has a statement on what the initial moment of creation is therefore all other beliefs must have a similar statement. Wrong. Some atheists may have an idea, but if they do it's all on them. Many atheists simply don't know and don't bother to speculate (same goes for agnostics). Atheism doesn't have any answer as to where the first atom came from or what kind of matter makes up God any more than the Book of Genesis has instructions for building an iPod.

Answer 3

Random vacuum fluctuation. To an outside observer, if there was such a thing, the energy blip that we call a universe is on the way up, after which it will fail to reach hyperbolic expansion and collapse back to nothing. The universe is a virtual particle - it just looks bigger from the inside.

This isn't even vaguely theological.

Answer 4

So apparently God came before that first atom and created it. Basically, the most intricate and advanced being imaginable came before the most basic form of matter? I look around, and that is not the case anywhere else. Simple things always come before complex things. A small group of cells develop inside a uterus and become a human. Evolution is another example.
So, you would rather believe the most amazing being possible came before an atom. You ask, "where did that first atom come from?" I ask, "where did God come from?"

Answer 5

1. Yes, Atheism is a faith. A belief in nothing is still a belief.
2. The same goes for all other creation ideas. No one can say how the universe was created. They're all just theories. The Atheist's just happen to have a thoery based on physical scientific studies instead of old stories.

Answer 6

My assumption is that the "something" that eventually expanded out as what we call the "big bang" was just pure energy, since energy can not be created nor destroyed. This is just my guess, no "ALL ATHEISTS THINK THIS!!!111" alright? I don't know what came before it. Another personal thought is that our "big bang" is not the only one that happened. I like to think that the space we're floating around in is infinite and other "bangs" have occurred elsewhere, but that's just my thinking.
Atheism holds no more faith than you're lack of belief in Huizilipotchli.

Answer 7

No, you clearly don't understand what the Big Bang was if you still ask how the first atom got here.

You also don't understand that atheists do not claim to know it all. Atheists can live with the fact that we still do not understand everything about "nature" rather than irrational acceptance of "God did it".

Answer 8

Who really cares how we got here? There are plenty of theories that can be worked out to prove the creation of the Earth without the belief of a god. Yet, I choose to not concern myself with such things. It's not important to me. Although you're explanation of how God appeared to be able to create the Earth seems very ridiculous. It's like something you get out of a SciFi movie.

Answer 9

Why do you expect anybody to have all the answers to every question. Human knowledge has only scratched the surface of what there is to know but atheists refrain from inventing gods and demons to fill in the gaps in their knowledge.
You make assertions in your question that are impossible to verify.

Answer 10

i don't believe in the big bang

and i don't call myself an atheist

i'm just a understanding person with questions