How can God win if there are souls in Hell burning, being tortured and denied of the very salvation he supposedly died for? Wouldn't that be Satan's intent, to have at least one soul in Hell and even just that one gives Satan THE victory? God doesn't win if even just one soul goes to Hell.
2007-10-27 08:58:47 · 22 answers · asked by ? 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
..And what if hell is not eternal suffering, not a furnace but a washing machine where you atone. What if the refining fire is like a jewellers, where the gold is formed and the dross is removed. And all are saved..
2007-10-27 09:13:46 · answer #1 · answered by PROBLEM 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
what are you talking about winning or losing?? jGod offers salvation. People make choices that put them in hell, and it is not Gods will that any would perish. It's not about winning or losing, it's about living according to the word of God, and having a realationship with Jesus Christ. Satan, will never have victory. Salvation is free, it is up to people to take it.
2007-10-27 17:14:36 · answer #2 · answered by Godsgirl 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Those souls that go to hell go there because they did not choose Christ while they were here on earth. God wins because, in the end, Satan and his followers get thrown into the lake of fire and will be tormented for ever and ever while God and his followers will be in paradise.
Blessing and honor and glory and power belong to the one sitting on the throne and to the lamb. Jesus is Lord.
2007-10-27 16:05:14 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Uh...sortof...I guess it depends on how you look at it.
Satan is doomed to hell (incidentally, there is no one in hell at the present time). Does God enjoy having people eternally separated from Him...no, which is why He sent Jesus. The idea of having His Son die isn't appealing but it was better than removing Free-Will. Come on, who wants love to be forced [i know, I am totally opening myself up to that one :) ]?
Satan being in Hell isn't exactly a win situation, nor will anyone being in Hell. The premise of Hell is that an option was given and those condemned choose to side with themselves and their reasoning rather than faith and trust in God. Their free-will determined their outcome and God will honor that. Does it suck for Him, yeah of course, but He isn't about to strip us of our most precise gift or bend His laws. So Satan is just looking at getting back the only way he knows how. Misery loves company.
2007-10-27 16:06:16 · answer #4 · answered by Kiker 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God's plan for mankind's salvation requires the resurrection of all who die (John 5:28). The apostle John describes three resurrections—one to eternal life (Revelation 20:4-6); one to physical life (verses 11-12); and one to death in the lake of fire (verses 13-15 [although these verses do not mention a resurrection specifically, the incorrigibly wicked, who have rejected God's offer for salvation, will need to be resurrected to be cast into the lake of fire]). John 5:29 is another important verse in understanding God's plan. There are two resurrections mentioned in this verse, but the Bible actually refers to three resurrections.
The first resurrection is called by that name: ". . . They lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years . . . Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years" (Revelation 20:4-6). This resurrection will take place at the second coming of Christ when the righteous dead will be resurrected to immortality (1 Corinthians 15:50-52; 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17). This is called a "better resurrection" (Hebrews 11:35) because it is to immortality and rulership with Christ during the Millennium.
The second resurrection will take place at the end of the 1,000-year reign of Christ and the saints. "But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished" (Revelation 20:5). This resurrection is further described in verse 12: "And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books."
This is a resurrection back to physical life (Ezekiel 37:1-14). It will include the vast majority of all people who have ever lived—people who never knew God and His great purpose for them. It will be an exciting time when virtually all of history comes back to life (Matthew 11:20-24; 12:41-42). These people will have a second chance for physical life but their first opportunity for salvation and glorious immortality in God's family. They will be given ample time for learning and growing in God's way of life. Truly, God's plan includes everyone. He is not willing for any to perish but that all should come to repentance and salvation (2 Peter 3:9; 1 Timothy 2:4).
The third resurrection will take place at the conclusion of God's plan for mankind. This will be a resurrection to physical life for all those who have rejected God's offer of eternal life in past ages—a resurrection to death in the lake of fire. "And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire" (Revelation 20:14-15; Hebrews 10:26-29; 2 Peter 3:10-12). Our loving God gives everyone an opportunity to have eternal life and wishes no one to perish. But if they refuse, the punishment is the second death, which ends their lives quickly and forever (Malachi 4:1, 3; Matthew 25:46).
The three resurrections reveal the order of God's marvelous plan and purpose for all of humanity. It is appointed to man once to die (Hebrews 9:27), but afterward there will be a resurrection for everyone who has ever lived.
2007-10-27 16:05:32 · answer #5 · answered by TIAT 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God is the winner!
He gave us free will and that free will is how we choose who we want to fallow Jesus or Satain.
When Jesus comes back He will take care of putting Satain where he belongs, but the bad part is thouse who coose Satain over Jesus and don't change their mind are going to the same place.
I'm sorry but that is what Jesus says in His word.
2007-10-27 16:15:52 · answer #6 · answered by Preacher's Daughter 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Okay....
All that Christianity is is that it is a numbers game.
But for all others... what about the faiths that don't believe in Jesus. Judaism doesn't believe that Jesus was the savior, does that mean that they all immediately go to hell? Remember, these are God's Chosen People.....
2007-10-27 16:11:21 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
God wins regardless. It has already been written and it's going by the book so to speak. No one is in Hell at this point anyway.
2007-10-27 16:05:47 · answer #8 · answered by mortgagegirl101 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Satan is already defeated by the death and resurrection of Christ and his final humilation is already set too,each soul has the choice to be with God or the devil, and in this reality the soul defeats it`s own purpose in life.
2007-10-27 16:04:37 · answer #9 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 7⤊ 1⤋
Rom 9:22 [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
Rom 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
2007-10-27 16:02:55 · answer #10 · answered by revulayshun 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋