why be vegan? (for vegans only)?

Question

why cant you just not eat meat but still eat eggs (free roam, vegetarian fed) and milk where cows have been treated humanely? no suffering involved?
fyi, this isnt a biased question, i want to hear your opinions, i was just wondering.

Answer 1

Hi :-)

Remember me?

Anyways, you know me, I have trouble "understanding" motives and actions of vegans.

Let me see if I have this straight. A chicken lives in poor conditions. Unfertilized eggs from this chicken are not acceptable because of it's environment. Correct? But, a chicken lives in poor conditions. The chicken dies (whether naturally, a direct result of it's conditions, or by force). This chickens parts are turned into fertilizer. It's OK to eat the vegetables that are fertilized by the chickens parts. Correct?

Do I have it correct? That's accurate yes?

Outside of sheer convenience or lack of dedication, what makes one acceptable but not the other?

If you truly feel strongly against the exploitation of the chickens, why don't you DO something about it? Why do you accept produce that's fertilized this way as unavoidable? Surely there are alternatives. How hard have you tried to find them?

Maybe not a good example for here but I went with some friends this weekend on a 350 mile roadtrip into Wisconsin. My friends are a little more animal welfare friendly than myself. I was along for the experience. We went to a private farm to get a half of a butchered pig. The farm is owned by friends of theirs and uses "animal friendly" methods for both their produce and their meat animals. All of their neighbors are Amish if that gives you an idea of the overall nature and simplicity of things.

My point is do all of you have this kind of dedication? There are many small farms where you can get your produce that isn't fertilized with animal products. Do you do it? Why not?

Answer 2

I believe it's unnatural to drink milk. What other animals besides humans get and use milk from another species? None that I know of. Milk is for baby cows, even when the cow has been treated humanely and has been allowed to graze freely. Further, I don't like the idea of drinking something that came out of a cow's udder, not to mention having severe lactose intolerance.

I can see where it may be more natural to eat eggs (chimpanzees do, I believe), this is where my squeamishness comes in. I don't like the idea of eating something slimy that came from the inside of a chicken. It just grosses me out, I guess. Even if I could get over it somehow, I still wouldn't need all the cholesterol.

Answer 3

Because those foods still aren't healthy! They are full of cholesterol and have been linked to terrible disease by very reputable studies (read The China Study). Adults are not supposed to drink milk at all (that's for babies) and they're CERTAINLY not supposed to drink milk from a cow. it doesn't make sense. And besides, the dairy industry CREATED veal. No one ever ate baby cows before, but they needed something to do with all the baby cows they take from the mama cows (who they have to keep constantly having babies so they have....milk!). And have you see how they treat chickens in egg farms? Ugh. F-ing disgusting. And eggs are gross. They have that nasty squiggly thing in it and sometimes they'll have a blood spot in there - it's just gross. i don't want to eat something that is made in another creatures body. It's gross! And unhealthy. And unnatural. And uneccessary.

Answer 4

I don't trust anyone to treat their farm animals with kindness or respect. They have those animals to make money, not to be friends with them.

"free range" and "cage free" are terms that are not regulated, so you have no idea how those chickens really live.

If someone rescues chickens and the chickens don't seem to care that they take their eggs, I have no problem with that person eating the eggs.

I would not eat the eggs myself in this situation. Instead, I would give them away to friends and family, ONLY if the hens didn't seem to care.

The same goes for cows. Their young are still ripped away from them prematurely and used to make veal and the cows themselves are eventually used to the point that they don't make enough milk to satisfy the farmers. Then they are slaughtered cruelly and sold as low quality beef.

Answer 5

Because I don't want to.

Eggs are for the chickens, milk is for the calf.

Humans are silly creatures. We think it's disgusting when a woman breastfeeds past a year, but we'll take away the baby and get right to suckling the tit of a whole other species.

Answer 6

I don't have an opinion. I half my family is veg and the other eats the whole "organic milk, free range hens and stuff). Only you can decide not to eat animal products. There is no why? and how come? in this equation. It's totally based on what you believe in your heart to be acceptable.

Answer 7

Would you drink cats' milk, dogs milk, rats' milk, giraffe milk, bears' milk, etc.? Why not? You drink cows' milk.

The cow produces milk for her baby. And even humanely treated cows are eventually killed when their production declines. The hens kept for eggs are also killed when production declines.

Free-range is just so much greenwashing.

Answer 8

they're is always suffering involved
No matter what the package says