Okay, I routinely get one or two thumbs downs on nearly every answer in this section. No problem, it doesn't bother me that much. If you are one of those doing it because of my repeated claims that nurses (and doctors) aren't all that knowledgeable when it comes to diet and diabetes, read this and tell me where I'm wrong:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AgtNL06FUUNXheJefQvFqyvsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071011201431AAKdww9&show=7#profile-info-VfBaveaJaa
Be sure to note that both ladies claim to be nurses. Also note that glucerna is hardly sugar free.
2007-10-12 15:18:39 · 16 answers · asked by Mr. Peachy® 7 in Health ➔ Diseases & Conditions ➔ Diabetes
Slightly better balanced, but glucerna still misses the target folks. I'm still waiting for a best answer. Any nutritionists out there? Where's Dr. McDougall when you need him?
2007-10-12 15:35:08 · update #1
If you were truly trying to help, then you wouldn't be saying something is sugar free when it isn't. Glucerna has slightly fewer calories than Ensure, but 140 calories (from sugar and carbs) is still significant. Plus, who needs all that sodium. Come on, you can't seriously recommend that stuff, can you?
2007-10-12 15:38:58 · update #2
nursekuba... yes, Glucerna only has 6 grams of sugar (24 calories) but you're ignoring the 27 grams of carbs (108 calories). Giving either Ensure or Glucerna to a sick diabetic with elevated blood glucose is nothing short of criminal. The last thing this poor guy needs is more sugar or carbs (which become sugar). He needs healthy foods like good old raw vegetables and maybe a little chicken breast or fish... not some concocted commercial "smart nutrition" crap.
2007-10-12 17:55:44 · update #3
Between JustMe, Silva, and kevinmccleanblack, I'm impressed. It warms my heart to see people who can actually think on their own. Best Answer will come tomorrow after I sleep on this. Good job everyone and good night.
2007-10-12 18:01:07 · update #4
Ensure, Glucerna, Boost and all the rest of these so called "nutritional supplements" are crap! These chemical soups marketed as 'supplements' in no way replace a real meal that contains real food!
You must know that Western medicine puts VERY little emphasis on nutrition..it is mainly concerned with drug therapy for the "treatment" of disease, that either masks or alleviates symptoms, but is not curative in any way. In the large city hospital where I work, glucerna, is routinely recommended for diabetics BY THE NUTRITIONISTS!!!
BTW.....There are SOME nurses on here that do give very sound advice, but it will depend on their background, training , and experience.
2007-10-12 17:03:04 · answer #1 · answered by Silva 6 · 4⤊ 2⤋
I am a nurse and sometimes I make mistakes. I didn't answer that question though. Glucerna isn't sugar free, but it's better balanced for diabetics and is recommended for diabetics not to cause as many problems with blood sugar. As your post shows, though, glucerna only has 6 grams of sugar, which is a small amount for that kind of supplement and much less likely to cause a blood sugar spike than Ensure.
2007-10-12 15:25:31 · answer #2 · answered by nursekuba 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I am tired of inaccurate opinions in general, no matter who they come from.
As far as the Glucerna etc. debate:
No matter what kind of liquid meal replacement/supplement out there, no matter whether it's high protein or not, they all (on the U.S. market) contain more than 15 g carbs, which is more than one serving of carb and more than I, for one, can eat for say breakfast at a time. NONE of them are terrific for diabetics, including Glucerna, which although it is made for diabetics and used to be better, is far from the lowest carb at this point. And let's not EVEN get started on the fat and fiber levels of each, which are far from ideal for diabetics. This comes from reading the labels of each and every one in several stores.
I was having trouble eating breakfast for a while - just wasn't hungry - so I thought I'd go back to drinking a Glucerna as I did years ago. Booooy, was I glad I read the labels. I ended up with frozen breakfasts, which had about the same level of carbs and more protein, which is what I need. Actually, it had less added sugar in general too.
To each his/her own - however, I would prefer that in the Diabetes category, which can have real life consequences, that people stick to what they can prove with facts. Otherwise those who are newly diagnosed or not as educated can be misled with lasting consequences.
Where are my facts? Read the labels yourself. Have fun, it is actually humorous.
Edit: I look at total g of carb, not just sugar g. Your situation may vary.
2007-10-12 15:56:16 · answer #3 · answered by Hoosier Mom 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋
There are a lot of opinions from a lot of different people. I only get upset when I see advice that could be harmful. Many people think their management method for their diabetes is typical and would work for anybody. But when complications set in, it takes a doctor with a medical record, and a patient in front of him/her to make proper recommendations.
As far as thumbs up or down, I use them when i agree or disagree, but when I think it may be harmful I answer. I do fear that some people act on what they read here rather than go to a doctor, but those people probably wouldn't go to a doctor anyway so maybe they get some help.
I don't think anyone is misleading on purpose.
2007-10-12 16:00:36 · answer #4 · answered by paul 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You and I seem to get the nurses and doctors dander up with out answers!!
Nurses as a group are stuck in the rut and haven't had the nutrition lessons those of us with diabetes, either type, have experienced first hand. Also they have not the time to do much online research! Doctors are in this boat also!
I routinely advise NOT to buy and consume any food that is labeled "fat free", "sugar free", "low carb", or "Diabetic"!! These things always have some other ingredients in them that is not in the best interest of good nutrition!
My #1 daughter continually looks for "fat free" stuff for my snacking pleasure! It is always loaded with carbs and sodium to make it taste better.
My #2 daughter looks for "sugar free" stuff for me to try!! It is always loaded with trans fats and sodium, same reason.
My grandchildren are better at bringing me little tidbits of real stuff. They are not concerned that it might be full of fat, sugar or whatever! And just a tiny bite of their goodie is truly a treat!
Love of Chocolate will be the death of me!
2007-10-13 03:14:57 · answer #5 · answered by Nana Lamb 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
the biggest threat linked with breast feeding whilst pregnant is uterine contractions which if oftentimes sufficient or sturdy sufficient could desire to bring about miscarriage in early being pregnant. when you consider which you already stated that your 15 mo previous is barely "convenience nursing" i does not be apprehensive approximately that. the subsequent subject is your nutrition. If nursing whilst pregnant you do want further energy & supplements so as that your 15 mo previous gets what's needed, the toddler your donning gets what's needed, and you your self are actually not at an entire deficit. It became suggested that besides to my prenatal supplements that I additionally took further folic acid & calcium, 2 nutrients that have a tendency to be lacking any way. i became additionally advised to strengthen my dairy intake to 4 servings an afternoon, and upload further snacks of end result & vegetables. I even have discovered that multiple medical doctors are truly unaware basically how secure breastfeeding whilst pregnant truly is. when you consider which you got here up against some opposition, i might advise conversing with a lactation representative (not in basic terms a LLL counselor till she has a lactation representative certification) or probably a midwife vs. a doctor. As for the beautiful kinfolk individuals who do not think of you'll be nursing...Screw them! multiple human beings interior the U. S. have a project with females breastfeeding their babies while they're now not the lovable little swaddled toddlers that in the time of basic terms coo, nurse, & sleep. they could recover from their very own themes and not impose their will on you and your loved ones.
2016-10-22 05:23:36 · answer #6 · answered by Erika 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Glucerna isn't sugar free -- you can see that by reading the nutrition facts . . . that's what the label is there for.
Glucerna IS used VERY often with diabetics.
2007-10-12 15:26:37 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Since i have had diabetes i have heard all sorts from doctors ,nurses, clinics etc they all have varying opinions on the do and don`ts of controlling sugars etc ,and some i have tried have proved wrong i now experiment my own ideas and am having a lot better success now. I think the whole diabetes problem is massive and no one can agree as with any medical problem ,the drug companies and researchers all want to make money or get funding so they cloud the issues ,as they don`t really want a complete resolution to any of it .
2007-10-12 17:45:34 · answer #8 · answered by kevinmccleanblack 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋
First off, I wouldn't suggest taking medical advice from message boards on the internet. Ask your personal physician instead. Secondly, there are many doctors and nurses who are very knowledgeable when it comes to diet and diabetes. Endocrinologists are extensively trained to diagnose and treat individuals with diabetes and many other endocrine and metabolic diseases. Lastly, without doctors, and most importantly nurses, who would take care of the ill? Nurses are there 24/7 and they are the ones providing direct care to people who require it. Nurses don't always have all the answers, but without them, many people wouldn't get the care they need when they are ill.
2007-10-12 16:01:56 · answer #9 · answered by PinkLife 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
If you want questions about diabetes answered, ask someone who specializes. You need to be asking a endocrinologist's nurse, or a dietician, at the VERY least. Your information is only going to be as good as its source, and not every practitioner of any ilk is going to be up on the latest on diabetes, any more than they're up on the latest trends in brain surgery if they're not a neurologist.
Get diabetes control information from a doctor - not from a free-for-all internet site!
2007-10-12 20:43:44 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋