Atheist and politics?

Question

In regards to politics and using Atheist reasoning, why is it o.k. to listen to a leader of a country and smile and nod but then state that listening to a holy book is wrong? Atheists are aware that many values and morals associated with Governments stem directly from Religion itself, correct? Calling a leader a "priest" or "president" doesn't really matter, you're still following what they say (Iraq war, Nazi, Republican, Fear, etc).

So, what's the difference, using your own line of logic when choosing what to believe and who to follow?

Please, do your best from using insults. I know it seems to be a thing with Atheist on here but why not try something different and prove to people you can do without it - thanks.

Some asked what not believing in God has to do with Politics - well, aside from Religion spawning Governmental policies, themselves, I am using the logic of belief and applying it elsewhere.

If your reasoning for belief in one thing can be applied to Religion, then it can be applied to Politics, as well - namely - following

I'm also not Christian nor follow the bible - Sorry, religion did spawn Government, though - Stop assuming people are all religious when they attack your religion - it only shows ignorance towards us middle paths

Toad, good answer. You insult very easily as there was nothing insulting there. Wow.

For the last time, I'm not comparing WHAT you believe in but HOW you believe in it.

My God, you guys have a mob mentality - Government spawns from religion - what do you think early religion was? Yes, a way to control people - what do you think government is? yes, surprise, God - no wonder this world is in ****

Answer 1

You're preaching to the choir...so to speak. I do not have much faith in political leaders either. However, there is some truth to the statement that atheism has little to do with politics. Atheism is just a lack of belief in a god...how does that relate to a person's stance on gun control, foreign trade, or social spending?

Answer 2

I don't like either politics or religion. Like faith, misplaced nationalism and jingoism can stop people from asking questions. One need only look at the death toll from communist governments in the 20th century to see that political tyranny is just as wrong as religious tyranny.

I vote on individual issues. I probably lean Libertarian, but I do not blindly accept the platforms of this party. They just happen to coincide with my own views. Fortunately, politics in this country has some level of accountability (in the form of votes), whereas religions may splinter off into rival groups, or refuse to change.

I follow my reason, in every case.

Cheers!

Answer 3

“In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.”
“Religions are all alike -- founded upon fables and mythologies”
“The Christian God is a being of terrific character - cruel, vindictive, capricious, and unjust”

~Thomas Jefferson, Author of the Declaration of Independence and Third President of the United States of America

Now, HOW was it that our government stems from religion again?

Maybe you could try something new, and actually provide a shred of evidence to support your claims. I know that's considered blasphemy among the so-called "christians" here, but give it a shot, just to prove you can engage in a discussion with adults without citing the voices in your head as your only sources.

Answer 4

"Atheists are aware that many values and morals associated with Governments stem directly from Religion itself, correct?"

Incorrect. Gods and therefore religions, were created by human beings, not the other way around. Invisible beings in the sky can't write books.

Humans wrote the bible and every other religious book. The lessons and ethics learned in these books were created by human for humans. The supernatural parts are silly and unnecessary.

Also, the Bible was written 2000 years ago by the equivalent of cavemen by our standards of knowledge.

Answer 5

How did I know this was going to be you again?

I don't care for our current government, so no.
I do not believe your book is right, I see it as being fake.

These kinds of morals come from more then just the religious and just Christians, so no. Most cultures world wide have shared in certain standards. Most believe elders are to be respected, that murder is wrong, etc. I do NOT see my morals as having come from your religion.

By law we have to follow what they say because people like you voted idiots like them in and let them control everything.

I follow no one other then what the laws say of our country. My beliefs are an entirely different issue.

Personally, if you are having issues with thinking this way, you have too much time on your hands and personally you deserve to be insulted if you are trying to push your crap on us repeatedly. You are doing nothing but trying to be manipulating.

Answer 6

The very last census shows about 12% of the inhabitants claims to be atheists. i think that wide form perchance a lot more desirable. thinking atheists have one a lot less entity contained in the chain of command(i.e. God, relatives, united states) they're more desirable equipped to manage the guidelines of guy, considering they don't have any more desirable order to respond to to. An interest stat on the Bureau of Prisons information superhighway website helps this idea. it truly is strongly recommended there that 70% of the prisoners contained in the u . s . declare to be Christian. No wonder because it quite is in accordance to the final inhabitants. notwithstanding, below a million% declare to be atheists. a good selection nicely lower than the final inhabitants. it truly is been reported that without the perception of a more desirable authority to get rid of guilt over transgressions, atheists are a lot less likely to disobey the guidelines of guy.

Answer 7

I don't understand your question. Are you saying atheists don't believe religion, yet have an undying trust in politicians? You know that's not true.

But what politicians say is different. They are dealing in the real world. Their lies can often be found out. It's different from the whole imaginary thing like in religion.

I don't have problems with all forms of authority just because I'm atheist. I just don't believe in god.

Answer 8

So, you follow a book written by some people aimed to control the mass population and term it "god's word" and you are proud of it, so?

Can you prove the book is written by god? No. Can I prove the book is written by men, yes.

Therefore, you are actually following "laws" written by men, not god.

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Read back your own question

"So, what's the difference, using your own line of logic when choosing what to believe and who to follow?"

your follow up answer:

"For the last time, I'm not comparing WHAT you believe in but HOW you believe in it."

Your question said "What to believe / Who to follow" and not "how you believe"

I am trying very hard not to insult you, and you are making it more difficult by your answers.

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Government is supposed to lead, not to control the population. However, somewhere down the road, someone merge it with religion and make it a controlling body instead of the leading body.

Answer 9

But i don't follow nor believe in any leader, you could say i am a lil bit of an anarchist. Btw those values arose at the same time than society, mainly to prevent the disintegration of said societies

Answer 10

Priests aren't democratically elected. The content of the bible wasn't decided by a democratic process. There's nothing democratic about monotheistic religions at all. It's more a case of, this is how it is, shut up and believe it or you'll burn in hell. I don't agree with a lot of politics in my country, but I've never heard any of them say that.