Christians, come here?

Question

if you are true, we muslims are taught to always defend, and never evoke other people. Why do you always say that we are wrong? can't we just live peacefully??

Answer 1

For me, it is not so much a matter of right or wrong, but a matter of "true" or "not true."

I can say that I am 6' tall and be right, or I can say that I am 72" tall, and still be right. Neither of these is in contradiction with one another, they are both true, yet they are saying the same thing (which happens to be true because I am, in fact, 6 feet tall,) so there it is not that I am right when I say I am 6' tall and wrong if someone else says I am 72" tall.

Muslims believe there was a man who walked the earth around 2,000 years ago. They believe his name was Jesus and that he was born in what is today again called Israel of a virgin girl named (roughly translated) Mary (or the close Muslim translation.) They even believe him to be a prophet of Allah.

The scholarly among us (Muslim or Christian) would probably also be able point out that the objective, secular historical record and evidence of the birth and life of an individual named Jesus in this period who fits these descriptions is as indisuptable as any other fact of ancient history.

Muslims even go so far as to concur with the Christian believe that Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus - a true miracle. The Quiranic version of Jesus' birth (born as Mary was alone and leaning against a palm tree) however, does not jibe with the Bibilcal one (Jesus born in a manger in Bethlehem, ancient city of David.) So, really, from this point forward, we must begin to ask ourselves whether the historical Jesus figure in the Quiran is, in fact, the same Jesus that we Christians worship as our Lord and Savior, as the only begotten Son of God (note: the Quiran says that God does not have a "son.")

Just from these two discrepancies, we begin to ask, are we really talking about the same person? Can both of these descriptions and beliefs be so different, yet still be reconciled? No. Jesus' birth in the City of David (Bethlehem) is a key fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy that MUST be believed in order to ensure that we do not fall into the "trap" that Islam follows: we MUST know that the Jesus who we worship is who He claimed to be because He, alone, is the perfect fulfillment of hundreds of prophecies concerning His life, death, crucifixion, and resurrection, all for the propitiation of our sins. (In reality, Christians believe our Jesus is who He said He is simply because He said it and He is God: we believe this solely by faith, and even that faith is a gift of God. In other words, God does not have to PROVE anything to His creation. He is simply truth and life.)

For the Christian, if Jesus were NOT the begotten Son of God (say he was just another holy prophet, as Muslims believe,) then we are doomed to hell, because all of the Bible's prophecies (the "plan of salvation") makes it clear that God would "become flesh" and "dwell among us," and that He would give His life as a ransom for us, to redeem us from the debt we owed: death for our sins.

What does all this mean? It means that, although Muslims claim to acknowledge and even revere the person of Jesus, that individual cannot be the same Son of God we worship and follow because the life of the Muslim Jesus, as described in the Quiran does NOT fulfill those prophecies that God gave us, therefore, the Quiranic Jesus is not the same person as the Biblical Jesus. Since these two factual "Jesuses" (unlike two different ways of describing my height, both of wehich can be reconciled and deemed "true,") cannot both be true, the one must be true, and the other not true. For me, then, the Bibilcal Jesus is the true Jesus, sent to earth to redeem sinners, and the Muslim Jesus is... well, all I can say is that he is not the true Jesus, just as I cannot be 6' tall and 5' 6" tall at the same time.

It has nothing to do with whether we as Christians and Muslims can live peacefully. The true Christian ALWAYS seeks peace, but also always seeks to peacefully shine the light of truth (i.e., the bibilcal Jesus, Son of the Most High God) into the darkness of a lost and dying world, that the world, through Him, might have life, and that in Christ, we will find the only true peace we will ever know on this earth: that we have been been redeemed by the blood of the lamb unto eternal life. That sure knowledge of our salvation is the sole source of true peace for the Christian, and I desire it for you.

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Philippians 4:6-8 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

God bless you, my Muslim friend.

Answer 2

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Thank you
God Bless you

I'd love to. All you need to do is
quit flying planes into buildings and other places,
quit beheading people on the Internet,
quit blowing yourselves up ,
quit preaching that Armenians and Coptic and the Holocaust never happened, that All should be destroyed...

Oh, you've seen it before. I have had Muslim students, I have Muslim friends, and there's a mosque about a quarter mile from where I live.
We all get along just fine.
They don't want to live under Sharia law any more than I do.
If the rational nine-tenths of Islam would do something to control the lunatic tenth,
I think we'd all be a lot happier.

Answer 3

The problem is that there are multiple religions; Christianity, Islam, and some others, who claim that they are right, and others are wrong. Not all believers of each religion are radical and unable to live in peace, but those that are cause a great deal of trouble for the rest.

As long as religions claim exclusivity to the truth, there will be conflict.

Answer 4

So let me get this right, you have the right to say whatever you want, kill whomever you want (according to the Qu'ran in the case of an infidel), and conquer whatever lands you wish in the name of your god, allah, but we are not allowed to have our own beliefs, apart from yours? Who's the robot? Your idea of living peacefully is vastly different from the rest of the world. Therein lies the conflict. Try being peaceable and peace will come to you.

Answer 5

I'm not sure I understand your question. And you might want to say 'some' Christians instead of putting all of us in the same basket on this. Christians want to live peacefully. It is the Muslim terrorists that I feel are wrong in regard to living out their faith. Not all Christians feel as you say. And not all people who call themselves Christian, are. So be careful who you listen too.

Answer 6

all and sundry is human beings, with various skills. Christianity is likewise a "vast church" reflecting many diverse suggestions and interpretations. And Christians selection from people who experience compassion for people who have not chanced on the way, to those that think of that people who do no longer have faith yet behave nicely could be "stored", to those with severe ideals that yet somebody else's loss of ideals or differing ideals won't basically mean their very own condemnation, yet will convey down divine retribution on the entire community or perhaps the international. So some might have the pressing might desire to castigate people who've perspectives that selection from theirs. or perhaps much less severe believers, and non-believers, have lapses (who's suited?). for my area, i think of people to this communicate board are normally charitable, regardless of our imperfections.

Answer 7

I'd love to. All you need to do is quit flying planes into buildings, quit beheading people on the Internet, quit blowing yourselves up in Israeli towns, quit preaching that the Holocaust never happened, that Israel should be destroyed...

Oh, you've seen it before. I have had Muslim students, I have Muslim friends, and there's a mosque about a quarter mile from where I live. We all get along just fine. They don't want to live under Sharia law any more than I do. If the rational nine-tenths of Islam would do something to control the lunatic tenth, I think we'd all be a lot happier.

Answer 8

Aren't you under orders, from the prophet, to take over all countries? And to install a muslim government? Isn't that against democracy and freedom of religion and equal rights?

Answer 9

If you were to be fair, then you would have to say there are Muslims who do the same thing you are talking about.

I'm all for living in peace; in fact, I'm all for everyone traveling their own spiritual path.

Answer 10

Hey, we should all want to live peacefully. I can live peacefully with you. If you can truely live peacefully with me. It is not a question about who is wrong or right. It is whether can live peacefully with each other. I simply don't know why we can't.