“They will fall by the edge of the sword and be taken as captives to all the Gentiles; and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.” – Luke 21,24
Jesus made this prophecy around 32 AD. The gospel of Luke was written between 57-60 AD. Jerusalem was trampled and set on fire by Roman soldiers under general Titus in AD 70 and totally destroyed during the second Jewish revolt in 134 AD. Other armies, notably Islamic, have destroyed the city after each rebuilding. The time of the Gentiles (that’s us) have therefore been fulfilled. The last part of the prophecy, ‘until the time of the Gentiles,’ has also come to pass. The Jewish people returned to their homeland after World War II and established the nation of Israel.
Only a few prophecies remain unfilled and Jesus will return in glory.
Are you still unconvinced?
2007-10-11
12:47:10
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Likeitev, It is almost unbelievable but it seems you are right.
2007-10-11
13:01:45 ·
update #1
Yes, I asked this question yesterday but that was on a different time frame.
2007-10-11
13:06:24 ·
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Here is the best proof that the prophecy was not written after the fact. "When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, know that its desolation is at hand. Then those in Judea must flee to the mountains. Let those within the city escape from it, and let those in the countryside not enter the city," - Jesus (Luke 21, 20)
The early Christians followed these instructions of Jesus. They left the city. There were no Christians in Jerusalem when the events took place. Go to your ancient history books. It is there.
2007-10-11
13:33:35 ·
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Someone said, "all I see is a lot of back pedaling." Yes, they are ignoring the facts.
Atheists: Here is the next Biblical prophecy to watch: the rebuilding of the Jerusalem temple. It looks like a possibility now but it is in the Bible.
2007-10-11
13:43:31 ·
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I stand corrected. The answers give me the impression that atheists are close minded just like some Christians.
2007-10-11
20:06:52 ·
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Jesus freak, it is written that if a person will not chastise their child , then the person doesn't really love that child. Why wouldn't that apply to one another. If being nice to someone is just not cutting it, then after a while something a little firmer is called for. All the questioner did was point out a truth and then ask a valid question . In response all i saw is a bunch of unsubstantiated backpedaling. Of course this ought to make me as popular as a hair in a biscuit.
2007-10-11 13:11:00
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answered by Anonymous
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First of all the city of Jerusalem has changed hands so many times,with so much resulting bloodshed that the idea of it being "Trampled Underfoot" is trite at best. It fell like many other societies before it,and many others since. As for the Jews returning that is what is called a self-fullfilled prophecy, it's not some sort of miracle,it's just a bunch of people holding onto their religious zealotry long enough to take it back,resulting in even more bloodshed. But that's the norm for that part of the world,so it really wasn't much of a stretch as "prophecies" go.
Jack
2007-10-11 13:10:06
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answered by Anonymous
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What about the prophecies of Nostradamus or do you not read medieval French as well as you do Aramaic or ancient Greek.
How many times has Jerusalem been conquered before and after christ.
A prophecy like that is akin to saying that it will rain within one week in Ireland.
Yes I'm unconvinced but it's bedtime for you and tonight the tooth fairy is coming with Jesus the sandman.
Sleep well and leave your brain in the bed in the morning as usual!!!
Nightey night!!
2007-10-11 13:05:53
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answered by Anonymous
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That prophesy is ridiculous. It wasn't the first time or the last time Jerusalem was trampled under foot by gentiles. It describes nothing in your second paragraph. During Jesus' time Jerusalem was already being trampled by Gentiles.
Mark was written 70 CE, but Luke was written well after 134 CE.
2007-10-11 12:57:50
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answered by Shawn B 7
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Actually scholars think the core of Luke was written between 80 and 100 or even later due to linguistic style, word usage and the first reported appearance of Luke in 110. I has been obviously modified and added to making the final version of Luke to appear about 160 to 200. Plenty of time to make the story fit the history they wanted.
2007-10-11 12:59:47
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answered by ? 6
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"The gospel of Luke was written between 57-60 AD"
You state that as unequivocal fact. It is not.
Most scholars place Mark being written about 70 AD, with Matthew and Luke to follow (since they copied his timeline and most of his stories almost word-for-word. In fact, at the very beginning of his gospel Luke references the many other gospels in circulation.
Given the later date of Luke's gospel, which is much more likely and accepted by scholars, this isn't a prophecy at all in the true sense.
Yes, I am still unconvinced.
2007-10-11 12:54:07
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answered by QED 5
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Of course I'm unconvinced! It's SO much easier to write a "prophecy" AFTER the fact!
Face it, the bible and all of the gospels have been edited and re-written so many time I doubt any of you would recognize the original mythology if it slapped you in the face.
2007-10-11 13:02:40
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answered by Anonymous
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Dude, you need to read some history. Cities falling and captives being taken are things that happen all the time.
Also, if the latest biblical scholarship is correct, then Jesus (if he ever existed) would have been dead _before_ the year that we number as 32 AD -- because the year of his birth has to be about 4 BC and he only lived 33 years, remember?
Keep studying.
2007-10-11 13:02:36
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answered by Anonymous
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are you serious? how about the prophecies of psychics that predicted the wars between the west and islam? how about my prophecies that have come true like how we as a nation were doomed economically and in the international community under the religious, simple minded and uninsightful president? How about the fact that specifically the "predictions" of jesus are identical to that of the pagans before him? How about the fact that this guy jesus copied mithra and other gods before him? how about the fact that this apparently infinitely wise god cannot make any specific predictions and is even more vague than telephone psychics? how about the fact that this religion cannot cure any disease and still relies on science?
If your god was that great a predictor, why couldn't he be more specific? gentiles? The definition of gentiles change from period to period. remember that in the times of jesus the gentiles were the non jews, now that word refers to non christians.
The only thing I am convinced about is the undeniable benefits that real facts will being to your life and the incredible lack of credibility of your religion.
2007-10-11 12:56:21
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answered by uz 5
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Another quote from a book written in old Hebrew, then translated into Latin, then into old English, then modern English. It was also selectively stripped of many add ons and prepared by people who used many quotes to suit their own outcomes and will all ways be.
2007-10-11 13:03:46
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answered by noknojon 6
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