JWs, you explain that King Solomon sat on Jehovah's throne, but does he sit as?

Question

Alpha & Omega? Beginning & End? First & Last? Holy One? Everlasting Father? Mighty God? Almighty? Savior of the world? Chief Cornerstone? God manifest in the Flesh?

Does King Solomon have a name on his thigh as the KING of Kings & LORD of Lords?

Will every knee bow & every tongue confess that King Solomon is Lord or Jesus is Lord?

Does the Scripture say that King Solomon and the Father are One or did Jesus say He & the Father are One?

Was King Solomons name preached throughout the new testament?

Did the fullness of the Godhead bodily dwell in King Solomon or Jesus? Colossians 2:9

Does the Bible say we are COMPLETE in King Solomon or Jesus? Colossians 2:9

Was King Solomon called the ETERNALLY BLESSED GOD?

So when King Solomon is compared to Jesus is there a twisting of the Scriptures here?

The bible says RIGHTLY divide the word of truth!

My statement comes from a Jehovah Witness who says King Solomon went to sit on Jehovah throne therefore it justifies Revelation 22:3-4 which goes singular when describing God & the Lamb as Him or His instead of they or their.

But we all know King Solomon was never called Mighty God or Alpha & Omega. If you need further clarification, please let me know.

JWs can you site Revelation 22:3-4 in the Scriptures, please?

JUST A LITTLE NOTE, I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY, BUT I DO BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD.

HEAR O ISRAEL THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD.

Answer 1

I believe that you are referring to 1 Chron. 29:23.

“Then Solomon sat on the throne of Jehovah as king instead of David his father.” - 1 Chron. 29:23, ASV.

Clearly this scripture shows that the “throne” or AUTHORITY of a much higher ruler can be delegated to another, much inferior ruler. Even King David was said to be sitting on GOD'S throne. (Luke 1:32) That is, he wielded the authority over God’s people on earth as a REPRESENTATIVE for God. So it was the throne of God and of David and of Solomon.

Obviously, we wouldn’t give a thought to the "Godhood" of David and Solomon if we saw a reference to "the throne of God and David and Solomon" (1 Chron. 29:23; Luke 1:32 above). We are speaking of only one throne (perhaps), but there is certainly no reason to think that one throne unites all three mentioned who had the authority symbolized by that throne!

And the fact that GOD is mentioned as one person (and David and Solomon as OTHERS) precludes any possibility of honest error. For example, even when we add the testimony of the scripture which says that all the assembly bowed down and WORSHIPPED ["shachah"] Jehovah AND KING DAVID (1 Chron. 29:20), we still wouldn’t reason that David was Jehovah! The fact that they are so clearly represented as TWO separate individuals compels us to find some other solution to the problem of what seems to be "equal worship" (unless, of course, you already have an unshakable tradition or mindset that David is Jehovah).

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Some trinitarians claim that if there is only one throne that God and the Lamb share, then they both must be God.

"Then he showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb." - Rev. 22:1, RSV.

If we carefully examined what this scripture actually says, most of us would probably reject such reasoning out of hand.

But the fact that GOD is mentioned as one person (and the Lamb as another) precludes any possibility of honest error. The fact that they are so clearly represented as TWO separate individuals compels us to find some other solution to the problem, just as with Solomon and David. So why should we accept such poor reasoning for Rev. 22:1? -RDB

Answer 2

Jesus is never called the Alpha and the Omega.

In the first two lverse it is the Lord God, and in the second it is the 'One seated on the throne'

Both of these show that in the third instance it is also the God of our Lord Jesus who is the Alpha and Omega. (Rev 1:6)

Jesus, Paul, Peter and John on numerous occations tell us about the God of Jesus, NEVER will you find a verse that talks about the God of the Father.

Revelation isn't written as a play that denotes who is speaking in each verse.

2 Cor 4:4 states that the Glory of Christ is that he is the image of God,

If you believe Jesus is more than an image you are being blinded by Satan the god of this world.

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Answer 3

The words "Him" or "His" are used for only one person and not two nor three persons. In Rev 22:3-4 it talks of God only, meaning there is only one person who is God. This doesn’t mean that God the Father and the Son are one person only.

You said Rev 22:3-4 describe “God and the Lamb” as Him or His. I think you have misunderstood this. Notice what the verse says “But the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in [the city]”. Jesus has his own throne, but the Father is also sharing his own throne to his Son Jesus, just as Jesus shares his throne to his followers.

Please read Rev 3 where it states

“21 To the one that conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, even as I conquered and sat down WITH MY Father on his throne.”

So Rev 22 is actually talking about GOd the Father who owns the throne which he shares with his Son, "the Throne of God and the Lamb"

Answer 4

First, Who is God? The father, the Son or Both?

1Cr 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father

Who is King? The father, the Son of Both?

Psa 47:2 "For Jehovah Most High [is] fearful, A great king over all the earth."

Who is a Prince, Lord and heir to God's throne?

Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

1Cr 8:6 and one Lord Jesus Christ

Rev 22:16 "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this message for the churches. I am both the source of David and the heir to his throne.

There is no duality. Jesus was not always on the throne. Only after his father "who is God" exalted him was he in line for the throne.

Phl 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

New Topic: Revelation 22:3-4

To Whom is the Revelation about?

Rev 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ"

Who gave the Revelation to John?

Rev 1:1 "which God gave unto him"

Who bared the record of God to John?

Rev 1:1 "and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his servant John"

Now that we know who is who we can then look at Revelation 22:3-4.

The Angel of God:

Rev 22:1 AND HE SHOWED ME a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

The angel shows John God's throne. Who is on God's throne?

Rev 22:3 "the Lamb shall be in it" ("Shall", furture tense, the angel is showing John what will occur during Christ 1,000 year reign, compare Rev 20:4-7)

That is the face that John sees and the name written on the sevants head. Is that the only name on thier heads? NO.

Rev 14:1 Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.

The Lamb and the Father are two seperate beings with seperate names.

Once death has no power (Rev 20:6) Jesus rulership is over and done.

1 Cr 15:24 "After that the end will come, when he will turn the Kingdom over to God the Father, having put down all enemies of every kind. For Christ must reign until he humbles all his enemies beneath his feet. The last enemy that will be abolished is death."

Answer 5

Isaiah 66:1 god's throne.

Answer 6

God is ONE God. Elder woman quoted a verse which I have
loved; Psa 132:11, Of the fruit of David's body, God set upon David's throne, through Jesus. I would like to add a New Testament verse which verifies this, Mark 11:10, "Blessed be THE KINGDOM OF OUR FATHER DAVID, THAT COMETH IN THE NAME OF THE LORD: HOSANNA IN THE HIGHEST".

Yes, God set's upon the throne of David, and yet, God is everywhere present and nowhere absent. The body of God, Jesus, sets upon the throne.

LET THOSE WHO HAVE EYES TO SEE, SEE.

REV 22:11, "HE THAT IS UNJUST,LET HIM BE UNJUST STILL::::AND HE WHICH IS FILTHY, LET HIM BE FILTHY STILL:::AND HE THAT IS RIGHTEOUS, LET HIM BE RIGHTEOUS STILL::: AND HE THAT IS HOLY, LET HIM BE HOLY STILL".

Answer 7

Jesus, Messiah, came through David, and within the Old Testament, is "the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ", Colossians 2:2-3. The New Testament reveals those hidden mysteries. Jesus was a hidden mystery within the OT, and was referred to as David, because it was through David's seed that Jesus was born, after the flesh.
Psalms 132:11, "The Lord hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body WILL I SET upon thy throne". See the hidden message within this? Of the fruit of David's body will God set upon David's throne, and this was fullfilled when Jesus was born.

Look at Psalm 22, which begins, "My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?" This is a witness of Jesus, which was fulfilled at His death. Ps 22:9-10, "But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make ME HOPE when I was upon my mother's breasts". Jesus didn't hope, but rather, He is HOPE. "I was CAST UPON THEE from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly". How was Jesus "cast upon" God? Think how a broken arm is "cast". Jesus' flesh-man was like a "cast", or house, or temple within which "dwelleth ALL THE FULNESS of the Godhead bodily"; Colossians 2:9. God became clothed in flesh and dwelt among men, EMMANUEL. Why did Jesus stop the demons from telling who He was, if he were just a man? Because He was God in flesh, and the time for that revelation was close at hand, but not yet.

Answer 8

It would seem to be quite obvious that a "throne" describes kingship and authority, rather than qualities of deity or parenthood. During the reign of Solomon (and others) the throne of rulership over Israel continued to be "Jehovah's throne" because Jehovah continued as Ultimate King of Israel, and God's designated king continued subject to God.

(1 Chronicles 29:23) Solomon began to sit upon Jehovah’s throne as king


Interestingly, King David (Solomon's predecessor) referred to the subsidiary kingship (over Israel) as belonging to Jehovah.

(1 Chronicles 28:1-5) David proceeded to congregate all the princes of Israel, ...even every valiant, mighty man, to Jerusalem. Then David the king rose to his feet and said: “...[Jehovah] chose Solomon my son to sit upon the throne of the kingship of Jehovah over Israel.


This principle, that Jehovah continues to "own" all authority even when he designates some of it, seems to quite plainly affect a bible student's understanding of Revelation. Here is Revelation 22:3,4 with the addition of bracketed comments by this answerer.

(Revelation 22:3-4) But the throne of God [which he owns] and of the Lamb [who is entrusted with it] will be in the city, and [Jehovah's] slaves will render [Jehovah] sacred service; and they will see [Jehovah's] face, and [Jehovah's] name will be on their foreheads.

Here are some supportive Scriptures:

(Rev 3:21) To the one that conquers I [Jesus] will grant to sit down with me on my throne, even as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.

(Rom 1:9) For God, to whom I render sacred service

(Matt 5:8) Happy are the pure in heart, since they will see God.

(Rev 14:1) Look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.

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Answer 9

Site where your statement comes from please.

I have never heard of this before.

God Bless You

Answer 10

WOE, WOE, WOE !

Your Question Looks Like a SOLUTION LOOKING 4 A (PROBLEM) ! ! !