Hi people from Turky- I am interested to know... Armenia?

Question

We all know that the issue of the slaughter of Armenians at the beginning of the 20th century is currently in the news. The US is discussing it in terms of "genocide"- see statements from W before he was elected calling it a genocide. Turkey maintains that the slaughter was not systematic and to eradicate the Armenian people, and is extremely offended by the actions of the US.

So, people in Turkey today (esp young people)- what are your thoughts on:
a. This current issue
b. The slaughter of Armenians. Was it or was it not a genocide, and should it be labeled as such?
c. The responsibility of the CURRENT Turkish gov't

I'm really interested to hear your thoughts

I found all of these answers really interesting. Does anyone have a URL or link the the quote by the first president of Armenia?

Also: what impact (if any) does this have on your opinions of the United States (I don't mean on the current gov't, I mean in general). What long-lasting effects do you see?

asıl-çetin: who is erivan? or are you asking me?

Answer 1

am not that young (over 38) but here are my answers to your questions:
a) this current issue is a political maneuver. The US government doesn't back on the idea bu the congress go for it for the sake of armenian voters in the USA
the History of American political machine is full of misperceptions and bad decisions - futile resolutions etc.
This is just another mistake US administration is making (and probably will be heavily paying)

b) attrocities in 1915 wasn't the fault of Turkish government. Ototman administration was just trying to handle a situation against the armenian rebeles who backstabbed Turkish people during the Russian invasion in 1915

c) The responsiblity of the current Turkish government is to protect the benefits of Turkey and the Turkish nation. Within this context, refuting a LIE is the primary responsiblity of the Turkish government. The next step will be to take necessary measures to prevent armenian diaspora feeds other terrorist organizations like asala

Answer 2

I sort of understand it but I wish a ton more common sense and civility could be used. Being a celebrity has always come with the inevitable attention from the public and the press, it's kind of what the definition of being a celebrity is. I do wish the media would have the decency to allow them some privacy, while on the other hand I abhor those celebs who do bizarre things to keep their name in the spotlight, then whine about negative press coverage.

Answer 3

Armenia went through lots of difficulty, one of them the horrible Genocide by Turks, then the Communist took over and they were imprisoned in their own country for70 years , before that also suffered on the hands of other super powers throughout the centuries, it was because it is in center of the world (counting our lands in turkey today), every one wanted a piece of Armenia.
Now we are getting stronger and our voice is louder, which is great and also there are more educated people in the world and today's technology allows it happen faster.

Sera is back has good sited about the Armenian history.

And I will give you this sides to answer Red candy:
why are you posting the one side of the video, show it all.

Answer 4

I would like to address "Red Candy's" response.
Red Candy: Armenians have been lobbying for recognition for DECADES...please do your research before making such absurd allegations. I have pictures of family members standing in the streets with signs (from the 1960's!!!!) Secondly..I don't need money from Turkey, I need an admission. Thirdly, the word "genocide" was not invented until 1943 by Raphael Lemkin(to describe what happened to the Armenians). So before that, no one knew to call it genocide.

Lastly, Riviva: this question will not give you a broad range of answers. There is no freedom of speech in Turkey (see Penal Code 301, to know what I mean). Turkish people have been brainwashed in school, by Nationalist propaganda. Its sad to say, but they will never admit to it. Yet they will persecute and assassinate those who do admit to it. (See Orhan Pamuk, and Hrant Dink).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqkOwsBHZWs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC8I9ttFiX0

Answer 5

Frantically
U.S
Celebrates
Kurdish conflict
You

Answer 6

"All truth passes through three stages:

First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
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Answer 7

the genocide was true. my great grandmother was a witness her self. as an Armenian i believe my country had genocide. the biggest evened was that Armenian scatter all over the world because of the war. my great grandmother befor she had died 10 years ago had stated when she was 12 she was with her family in her house when a tun of nosie had happend
they looked out the window and saw turkish soliders had came she said she had rembered the stomping of the door braking as her uncel head was chopped off for retailating. her father was taken with all the armenian men when she saw all theses men shot. her mother had put on a big jacket on her and stored all the money in it and told her not to to give it to any one anlong with pictures and valubles and documents. then she had taken her 2 mouth year old brother with her but her sister was taken to live and became a turk and her other sister was taken because the turk head of the army had liked her. she hid for a long time until she walked in the dark streets until she had seen a small light it was like a jipcie. she had beged for water for her brother but they did give them water in the end. she had seen her town was empty on her way to her home in the darkness frighten she would be killed she saw many people dead and the town was made a mess. she had gone into her house seeing that her mother was there she had eskaped from them taking the women but many people hid deep in there dark house to had made it looked abanned but the mother she said had been prepairing them dinner she was shoked at this life flighting point in life she was cooking and with made a small amount of nosie her mother said i may be old but you have life so she ate with her brother and planned what she had to do. sadly the next day the truks had came again the mother this time was taken for good and and she manged by a mircile find her sister and stole her from the trukish family she was in but then 3 of them were taken from a trukish solider and put in a desert. when the greeks had hered and came to help the greeks came and took them and orthanied them but she also had said she did not like the greeks because at christmas time they had given them oil on bread. untill she grew up and many armenian and so did many armenian children they wanted to keep the armenian culture going on so all married armenian some became armenian school teacher some became priests and then with her husband she had gone to egypt were most armenian went after and made a big socity and all over the world but yet the truks clam they have done nothing but they magged to get rid of 75% of the evedence.

Answer 8

I don't know what some people think in turkey, but there are lots of educated people who admit that young Turks carried out the Armenian genocide, here is the truth, read this websites.

http://www.armenianhistory.info/genocide.htm

http://www.armenian-genocide.org/

And here is couple of links to First Armenian Republic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Republic_of_Armenia

http://www.armenianhistory.info/thefirst.htm


If you need more information email me I will be glad to inform you.

Answer 9

♣ riviva, don’t you know human psychology? First who complains is right! Like in school sneakers get benefits! do you really know the issue?

-asil-chetin, it’s impolite to ignore riviva’s question to you; Erivan is capitol city of Armenia, the naked man is a Turk captured in Erivan by police; I do not remember details of this story though;
-by the way Turks, nothing actually would change outside, if all nations (including Turks and Kurds, too!) recognize the events of 1815 as genocide; there’s no disgrace to modern Turkey; who is friendly will stay friendly to you, and who is not will be not; the young who are in Ottoman stuff will heal up; who remembers your sultans? We respect your Ata Turk!

-- to Sera and Alana: who did that massacre in Armenian parliament a few years ago? Were they Turks, too, eh?

Answer 10

Armenia's first president admitted that THEY attacked Muslims in the area first, that THEY started the killing, and that it was natural for Ottomans to respond and that the exile was the best thing to do.

I don't know why today's Armenians disregard the words of their founding father. It was an honorable standing at least.

Diaspora Armenians have fooled the Western world for decades, forging documents, writing books based on forged documents, writing books based on books based on forged documents. That's why they don't want to sit down to talk. They don't have solid evidence.

That Armenians died in 1915 doesn't mean it was a genocide. It only means that it was a sad era many ethnicities lived through in these lands.