Is America headed towards an anti-Judeo-Christian society?

Question

It would appear that we are transitioning (or have already transitioned) from a Judeo-Christian society to a post-Christian, post-modern society. But are we entering or have we already entered an anti-Judeo-Christian society?

No objective God...
...means no objective truth...
...means all “truth” is relative... (and people like Pilate say, “What is truth?” – John 18:38)
...means “truth” is an opinion of man...
...means all “truth” is relatively “equal”...
...means “morality” is “relative” and defined by man and the opinions of man (or society as a whole)...
...means the “justice” system is based on the opinions of man...

And since every single individual’s beliefs, values, lifestyles, and truth claims are equally to be accepted and appreciated...(lest we be declared INTOLERANT!)

...then all beliefs, values, lifestyles, and truth claims are morally acceptable and SHOULD be equally “legal”!

...and they SOON will be...*perhaps*!

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But does this not stem from the original ASSUMPTION that there is no God?

If God is, then there IS objective truth, and morality is defined by HIM...and justice based on that morality...and the “Ten Commandments” are posted in courthouses and government buildings (though, soon they won’t be...*perhaps*)

Could it be that the “minority” of atheists have overpowered our entire country?

...or, perhaps, are MOST “theists” actually “practical atheists” and/orinfected by “moral relativity” and completely oblivious to this infective “yeast”?

Is there ANY hope for the godly in America?
...or is it too late?

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Answer 1

SORRY..... " NO ! "......

...... WE.... ARE..... ALREADY...... " THERE ! "

(Judges 21:25) In those days there was no king in Israel. = = Every man = = did the right = = in his = = own eyes.


Thanks, RR

Answer 2

I sure hope so... it will be a return to the values of the Founding Fathers, who were NOT Christians (nor were any of the first seven Presidents!!!) And NO, we do not need God to keep truth from being relative.... 2+2=4 whether there is a God or not! Actually, it is CHRISTIANS who believe that truth is relative, because they think that things are good or evil ONLY because God makes them so, and not in their own natures... they believe that if God said 2+2=5, then 2+2 would BE 5, which is insane!!! There are some constants in the universe that are beyond even the power of God to change; not even God can make genocide morally right, for example, and those who say he can are morally depraved!

Answer 3

I do not believe one HAS to be Christian to espouse and live morally. However, I do believe that this post modern everything is acceptable in moderation has put veils over our eyes and some are blinded form the truth. Personally, I have given up on thinking it will get any better and know it is supposed to happen. Even more so, every day I realize I might be part of the last generation before the rise of the antichrist and have an even bigger responsibility to help share Christ. Gods peace to you :)

Answer 4

Your primary assumption is that "good" is whatever "God" wants. But what if God is malevolent? What if we are merely a stack of blocks God made to relive his cosmic boredom? "Good" would be whatever helped make the stack taller, not what would help us survive or improve ourselves. And when God lost interest, he could simply knock the stack over and forget about us. We'd never know the difference either way.

The fact that "God's" laws in the Bible bear a passing resemblance to the decrees of more ancient civilizations suggests that it was indeed humans who came up with them in an earnest effort to develop an ethical code that would manage conflict and prevent chaos. There are differences, but every religious code is certified as divinely ordained and absolute for each culture. What makes the Judeo-Christian version supreme, aside from an "I said God said so"?

Secular ethics takes the best elements of moral thought from all available traditions to develop universal principles such as justice, respect for the dignity of the individual, preservation of life, etc., and tools to apply them to the circumstances of every situation. When is robbery not robbery? It depends on the circumstances. First we must define a universal concept of ownership, then determine who has the better claim under the particulars of the event. (Religionists make similar distinctions, determining when murder is or isn't justified, etc.)

There are general moral absolutes. But there are also particular, arbitrary standards of conduct that can do as much harm as good if they are inflexible. History suggests that once a code is set, it provides the greatest advantages to those in power and the greatest disadvantages to the poor and powerless. Jesus railed against the Pharisees for this very reason. He condemned them for observing the finest points of Torah (for which only they had the time or resources to properly do), while abandoning the spirit, the ultimate purpose of the Torah, using it as a tool to oppress rather than to uplift the common people. Religious organizations tend to do the same, being more interested in self-preservation and being "right" than in actually relieving suffering and despair.

The primary fault of "objective truth" and "absolute morality", is that it is always proclaimed by the lips of fallible men whose swear it is God's will, never heard from God himself.

Answer 5

As an Atheist, I acknowledge that the United States were indeed founded on Christian values. Even though many of our founding fathers were actually "Secular Deists," they had to have some sort of governing basis to start from and Christianity was just as good as any (besides, our government is also founded on the ideal of "majority rule" and most of the population then followed some sort of bible based religion). There is nothing special about the morals and values found in the bible. These same morals and values are rather universal in that no society or culture accepts lying, stealing, murder, rape, adultery, bearing false witness, etc as a norm. The use of Christianity as a basis for our laws stop where our "inalienable rights" to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are infringed (ie. we are not forced to observe the "Sabbath"). The 1st amendment indeed does not mention anything about "separation of Church and State" but it does expressly prohibit the Congress from making laws "respecting an establishment of religion" or prohibiting the free exercise of religion. What most people fail to notice is that the use of the word "religion" is all inclusive and does not specify the "Christian" religion. This does equate to a separation of church and state without having to say so. Phrases such as "so help me God" and "in God we trust" on our money may be annoying to Atheists but they do not infringe on my rights. I do not have any less freedoms because of them. Once again I defer to go along with majority rule. We can't make everyone happy but we can acknowledge that it makes the majority happy so why change or attempt to appease everyone? Its impossible. I find it ridiculous to use legal action to stop prayer at graduations, sporting events, or any other place where the majority finds it acceptable. I simply choose not to participate. The concept of majority rule does end when it attempts to force a belief upon me, attempts to indococtrinate me or discriminates against me in some way. Otherwise I think we have a great system that give me freedoms and rights and protects them all the same. The so called "moral decay" in our country is a matter of speculation and opinion. Overall, high crimes like murder, rape, and theft are significantly down. Not just over the past few years but over the past few decades. You and I both, probably look down upon the recreational drug use, casual sex, disregard for authority, and the "entitlement" mentality that seems to be running rampant, but some of these things were much worse in the 60's and 70's and not one older generation ever felt anything but contempt for the younger one.

Answer 6

Are you still looking to MAN, rather than God?

Do you actually believe the god of this world who has blinded the minds of the deceived would in anyway endorse a system that would be glorifying the True and Living God?

Are you still trying to figure out by your own understanding, by reliance on man, intellect, ability, or anything other than God that anything can be accomplished for the kingdom of God with man's wisdom?

I think you ought to study what Paul writes about the depraved mind. Is anything in this world's system pleasing to the one who called You?

Answer 7

I have to agree with Blossom somewhat.
Most of our social order is ripe for the highway that leads to these persecutions.
But America is in company with a hundred other nations as well. She isn't alone here at all.
As it is now Christians are the most persecuted of them all. Don't believe it? Try living in "the way" at work, school, in a public building, on a forum, in your neighbourhood, on the street you live on, in your house with your family?
Go ahead ...try it and you will see just how intolerant the general public to the point of family and friends are.
You think we are headed for that road my man?
Heck: we are already on that road, and it is fast becoming a highway.
Post Script: look at most of the responses to your question. Does that seem like they are heading for that road? or are they there already ?

Answer 8

one can hope.

if there was a supreme being who took and interest in human doings, he/she/it would hopefully be a kind and just being, not the megalomaniac the bible describes in horrific detail.

with no evidence to the contrary, there is no objective god - only subjective god(s) that not even all Christians (let alone all Jews) agree on. Your point fails.

Morality is not nor ever was reliant on a notion of a single god of any flavor. Your other assumptions are just that - assumptions.

BTW:
Crime has decreased significantly since Christianity lost its strangelhold on society. So much for the "moral" good old days.

Answer 9

Things have been going back and forth over this since the "Great Awakening" revivals of the 1820's. Before that, the founding fathers' first amendment was allowed to speak for itself - this is a secular country.

Maybe you would be happier living in a religious country? Vatican City, or Iran?

Answer 10

Yes, but if the Christians would get on their knees and repent and pray, then God will hear and heal our land. We know that's things are being put in place for a one world government and the Antichrist will step into power after the rapture of the church.

Answer 11

I think barring a great moving of God it is too late. Us Christians were silent for too long. By the time we decided to fight the battle was nearly lost. Now I feel we are just fighting a holding battle, trying not to lose anymore ground than we have already. Unfortunately we have allowed precedent to be set already and it is going to be hard to change it back.