Is this why it is impossible to de-convert a Christian...?

Question

It seems that any argument against their beliefs can become proof of their beliefs...

Philsophical arguments
Romans 1:22 "Professing to be wise, they became fools"

Scientific arguments
1 Timothy 6:20 "Science falsely so called"

Religious arguments
Matthew 7:15 "Watch out for false prophets"

Answer 1

No it's because they stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalalalalalalalala" whenever common sense hits them in the face

Answer 2

While those verses definitely don't help, it is more you can't de-convert them because they have to de-convert themselves.

After all, they have this really fantastic belief that they have this father figure who loves them very much and will give them an eternity of serenity as a reward. Many people find comfort in such a fantasy, so much that they hold on to it dearly and rationality goes out the window.

Add on top of that the brainwashing that you have listed, and you get an army of people who militantly believe that they have an obligation to serve their god, and to bring others to this plane of serenity, I seriously could probably go on and on about how this religion is such a fly trap on so many levels but the answer would be so long that I personally wouldn't read it.

I do see the point you are making, however, that they have a "biblical" counter for most any argument, I just find it pathetic that those ad hominems hold any ground for any sort of people.

Answer 3

Romans 1 is speaking of those who worshipped just in case, not because they truely believed

1 Timothy is speaking about how to persevere with diligence, like a soldier, a combatant, and a husbandman.Especially men of God, to set their hearts upon the things of this world; men of God should be taken up with the things of God. There must be a conflict with corruption, and temptations, and the powers of darkness. Eternal life is the crown proposed for our encouragement. We are called to lay hold thereon. To the rich must especially be pointed out their dangers and duties, as to the proper use of wealth. But who can give such a charge, that is not himself

above the love of things that wealth can buy? The appearing of Christ is certain, but it is not for us to know the time. Mortal eyes cannot bear the brightness of the Divine glory. None can approach him except as he is made known unto sinners in and by Christ. The Godhead is here adored without distinction of Persons, as all these things are properly spoken, whether of the Father, the Son, or the Holy Ghost. God is revealed to us, only in and through the human nature of Christ, as the onlybegotten Son of the Father.

It really helps if one read the full chapter instead of just picking a verse

Answer 4

This is why many of us have to resort to picking out the bits of the Bible that are provably false, to discredit the rest of it.

I personally do not know of anyone who has converted a Christian, only ex-Christians who have seen Christianity for what it truly is on their own initiative.

Answer 5

It's impossible to tell a person, who has just had 2 Big Macs, fries and a shake that he is still hungry..

So, once a person has had the benefit of being filled to overflowing with the love and presence of God..it's too late for you to come along and tell them..they need to keep looking ....we have found, what we have been looking for!!!

Answer 6

It's wonderful -- in the original sense of the word -- to listen to them claim the right on both sides of the assertion.

However, it's not impossible for believers to de-convert. Many have done it, including some highly trained and skilled preachers and priests. But they have to come to it on their own; you can't reason them out of a position that they were never reasoned into to begin with. (That's Bertrand Russel, I think.)

Answer 7

I'm an ex-Christian.

Of course, the claim then tends to be that you were never a "proper" Christian in the first place.

I differ on that.

Answer 8

this is true of any belief system...all of that stuff is in the mind- the reasons and arguments are so easy to sway towards their taught beliefs with written contradictions that are easily explained away..how easy is it to keep the sheep following when they have blinders on?

people hear what they want to hear, and see what they want to see

Answer 9

Did you ever think that maybe they can't be converted because they've gotten hold of something that they know without a doubt is real.

Answer 10

It's not impossible to de-convert a Christian, it's just that you cannot argue with them, because of...well...you said it...everything you say to them could be turned around, even if it doesn't even make sense....