In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens & the earth... (Genesis1)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was face to face with God & the Word was God... (John1)
2007-10-11
10:11:01
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LottaLou
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zero, I am not a mormon. I believe the Holy Bible is the Word of God & the Mormon book is not the Word of God but a false doctrine/gospel.
2007-10-11
10:21:18 ·
update #1
t d,
You are right In the beginning was the Word & the Word was with God & the Word was God.
Thanks for correcting me. I read the face to face with God somewhere else in my memory banks.
2007-10-11
10:28:56 ·
update #2
cheir, I didn't do it deliberately. I am an honest person & make every attempt to be totally correct.
2007-10-11
10:30:25 ·
update #3
I received an answer to this question from James the Apostle this mornng. That God the Father, Word & Holy Spirit is Creator. That they are uniquely together as One Creator. (Not like anyone else.)
The Lord they God is One Lord, Is One Creator. God the Father Word & Holy Spirit. We are to baptise in the Name of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit. The Word of God (Jesus Deity) is One with the Father. On the cross, Jesus humanity was separated from God because of our sins.
2007-10-12
07:47:42 ·
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Genesis 1 : 26 And God said, Let US make man in our image, after our likeness...
2007-10-11 11:17:58
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answer #1
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answered by Israel-1 6
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God is one being and THREE persons. We can not FULLY understand the Trinity, but the scripures are pretty plain that God IS Trinity:
Jesus tells his apostles to baptize "in the name [notice, singular, not plural] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matt. 28:19). This is a proof-text: three distinct Persons united in the one divine name. In 2 Corinthians 13:14, Paul writes, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." We see this same unity of divine Persons in 1 Corinthians 12:4–11, Ephesians 4:4–6, and 1 Peter 1:2–3.
The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God (cf. John 8:58, 10:38, 14:10; Col. 2:9). It also clearly teaches that the Holy Spirit is God (cf. Acts 5:3–4, 28:25–28; 1 Cor. 2:10–13). Everyone agrees the Father is God. Yet there is only one God (Mark 12:29, 1 Cor. 8:4–6, Jas. 2:19). How can we hold all four truths except to say all three are One God?
And yes, Jesus DID say he was God. In John 8:58, when quizzed about how he has special knowledge of Abraham, Jesus replies, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am"—invoking and applying to himself the personal name of God—"I Am" (Ex. 3:14). His audience understood exactly what he was claiming about himself. "So they took up stones to throw at him; but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple" (John 8:59).
Also significant are passages that apply the title "the First and the Last" to Jesus. This is one of the Old Testament titles of Yahweh: "Thus says Yahweh, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, Yahweh of armies: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; besides me there is no god’" (Is. 44:6; cf. 41:4, 48:12).
2007-10-11 17:14:47
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answered by Anonymous
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The translation of the book of John is a mistake from the greek original.
It is the arianism which is, however, at the base of the Trinity and bases its principle according to the fact that God “is not created”, that the Son “is created” thus that the Son is not God but testifies to God, thing that the Church of Rome refuses.
“The arianism teaches two gods, one uncreated and one created, raised and a subordinate; one falls thus into the polytheism. In the same way, the arianism calls the teaching of the Christian hello in question, since, in addition to god whom can save creation, a creature can it too.
If Jesus is not of comparable nature that God, the men cannot become children of God. “Although regarded as heretic, this thesis is however developed by one of the fathers of the church, Eusèbe which will in parallel develop the theory of second God.
The Prime Minister being pure spirit entrusted to its during a structure of man and the capacity to create the things. The first book of the ecclesiastical History has a completely particular statute in the organization of work: devoted entirely to Jesus-Christ, it does not consider yet the history of the Church itself, with the topics which will be declined in all work (the history of orthodoxy, the history of the heresies, misfortunes of the Jews, the canonic laws, persecutions). This is why Eusèbe regards it as a “prelude”.
Contrary to the catholics, the orthodoxe ones do not make cut images of Christ, the Virgin and Saints. They represent them in the form of icons, “sculptures” flat made up of one or more wood panels on which one deposits in superimposed layers of the natural colors and the gold sheets. The council of Nicée of 325 recognizes the deicity of Jesus in opposition to Arianistes by introducing the formula “God born of God, Lumière born of Light, Vrai God born of true God” and recognizes the principle of the trinity adopted by all the Christian movements. In the Trinity, God is only one gasoline and three people: the Father (Creative), the Son (eternal Word) and the Holy Spirit (intelligent Force and Effectiveness) the council of Constantinople in 385 introduced the divinity of the Holly Spirit. The council of Tolède in 587 introduced the concept that the Holy Spirit proceeds of the Father but also of the Son.
It is what is called the quarrel of Filioque. I believe the Holy Spirit, which reigns and gives the life which proceeds of the Father and of the Son who spoke by the prophets, who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorifié. What causes the final rupture between the churches of the East and Occident. The quarrel of Filioque will end in the schism of Constantinople of 867, the orthodoxe ones not recognizing the introduction of Filioque into the Symbol of the Apostles. They saw in this formula that Christ found herself with equal of the Father, whereas the Spirit proceeds of the Father and the Son, but not under an equal report/ratio.
One can summarize this by saying that the Spirit proceeds of the Father “by” the Son.
The rupture is established around the dogma of the Trinity, whereas Rome imposed an addition without organizing the council which would have approved it.
Catholicism is a pagan rite where you pray statues and substitutes of God.
1/3 of the Popes are in Hell as relaps and simonists and the new, the nazi, returned back 150 years.
2007-10-11 17:29:25
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answered by gabuzo 2
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You use the word Elohim which in the Hebrew is in the plural form indicating more than two.
Second, you have deliberately misquoted John 1 which accurately translated is: '... in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God'.
The Greek phrase 'face to face' is not there, but can be found in 1 Corinthians 13:12.
Very naughty of you.
My apologies, I withdraw my condemnation.
2007-10-11 17:27:44
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answered by cheir 7
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Are you Mormon?
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One. God is one and He created everything.
JOSLIN: Reasoning From The Scripture is not the Word of God and holds no authority.
2007-10-11 17:18:08
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answered by zero_or_die77 3
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Colossians 1:11-20
Isaiah 9:6
Matt 3:13-17
John 8
2007-10-12 00:49:27
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answered by robert p 7
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Elohim in itself is a plurel noun which indicates the Trinity. And as you said in John 1st chapter we find Jesus at the creation so as you also know the answer to your question is yes
2007-10-11 17:15:41
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answered by s. grant 4
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Yes. God created heaven and the earth.
2007-10-11 17:18:58
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes, the holy trinity was involved in the creation of the world.
2007-10-11 17:16:21
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answered by Andre 7
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"the Word was face to face w/ God" .... where did you get that??
the actual wording is "the Word was God".
no... 3 SEPARATE & CO-ETERNAL BEINGS did NOT create anything, much less te heavens & the earth.
yes, the ONE God of our salvation created all things.
(NOT 3 in one.)
hear o israel, the LORD our GOD is ONE LORD.
(NOT 3 separate, co-eternal beings.)
2007-10-11 17:25:13
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answered by t d 5
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