ok i am recently studying Christianity and one thing is really bothering me...
if Jesus was mistakenly thought to be the son of god (which he is of course not; rather a messenger of god) why couldn't he have just said to his disciples/followers that I am NOT the son of god/man and stop being fooled. Wouldn't that have prevented all the chaos that we have today and almost over a billion people being falsely mislead? And also that would have served the message of the God in a better way as well cuz instead of committing blasphemy and worshiping a messenger/prophet, Christians would actually understand the message of Jesus and actually follow his teachings?
2007-10-11
08:33:34
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prophet mohammed (peace be upon him) never said the die or convert slogan of islam...
study islam before saying stuff like that whihc u learn from fox news
2007-10-11
08:47:40 ·
update #1
excuse my typos
2007-10-11
08:48:04 ·
update #2
thanks for heads up
dreamdress2
and yes i did look into it
(too bad for the devil eh)
but my opinion still remains unchanged
now here is one link for you that will show you the truth:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Islam-947/bible-quran-1.htm
will you let the devil stop YOU from seeing the truth?
once again it's http://en.allexperts.com/q/Islam-947/bible-quran-1.htm
2007-10-11
08:51:12 ·
update #3
vulcan_m ofcourse i respect Jesus
as the prophet
he is one of the key figures in Islam as he is mentioned in the Quran
my goal was not to offend my fellow muslims
or Christians (thats y i said click only if muslim)
2007-10-11
08:55:00 ·
update #4
to the 12 yeard old girl:
do you have any idea how many changes have been made to the Bible and how many errors it contains?
go here for starters:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Islam-947/bible-quran-1.htm
2007-10-11
09:00:37 ·
update #5
wow i am loving the answer by the last guy..sob sob
2007-10-11
11:35:11 ·
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Wonderful question! It cuts at the heart of what creates issues between us.
First off. I am Muslim because I believe there is one God and I believe that Muhammad is his messenger. But I also am Christian because I believe the Gospels are true because Allah says that they are.
Quran 5:46-47
5:46 And We caused Jesus, the son of Mary, to follow in the footsteps of those [earlier prophets], confirming the truth of whatever there still remained of the Torah; and We vouchsafed unto him the Gospel, wherein there was guidance and light, confirming the truth of whatever there still remained of the Torah, and as a guidance and admonition unto the God-conscious.
5:47 Let, then, the followers of the Gospel judge in accordance with what God has revealed therein: for they who do not judge in the light of what God has bestowed from on high-it is they, they who are truly iniquitous!
Some teach that the Torah and the Gospels are corrupted and should not be studied but when the above revelation was given the Torah and the Gospels existed as they exist today. The Gospels were established as they are today by the council of Nicea in 325. The Quran was given during the life of Muhammad some 300 years later. It is therefore mans understanding or perception or translation that is corrupted not the Holy text.
For me there is an understanding that allows for the all of the Holy Text to exist in harmony. But no faith mostly teaches what we have in common, they teach what our differences are. The fact is the New Testament teaches monotheism not polytheism. The prophet when admonishing us about the words "Son of God" did so to clarify that God does not give birth (not bearing) to another God. His teaching about this is to make clear that Jesus was not a separate deity. No Christian that I know believes in a polytheistic view of the Bible. Perhaps during the prophets time there was some talk about that.
The words "Son of God" will never (in this life time) be removed from the Christians concept of their faith. Just like the words "Prophet Muhammad" will never be removed from our faith. How do we feel if the Muhammad is called a false prophet? It insults our sensibilities. Like wise, Christians have their sensibilities insulted when we say that Jesus is not the Son of God. How better would we be, if we only clarify the teaching of Muhammad’s teaching of monotheism as it relates to the words "Son of God". I am sure we would find our relationships with our Christian brothers improved and open the door for more constructive dialog.
Jesus is the man, the Christ is the spirit of God. The God consciousness. Is the worship of the Christ (the spirit of God) acceptable?
Concerning the worship of God the bible quotes Jesus this way:
Matthew 4:10 (King James Version)
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Therefore the Quran and the New Testament is of one accord concerning this teaching.
Concerning your statement about how Christians miss-understand the message of Jesus and may not follow it perfectly.... My beloved friend, that is our challenge as well... To understand the Quran and follow.... Lets pray that we all are trying to do just that. I know that I fall short of the mark and it seems that others do as well.
Consider these words.
He who says he knows, does not know. He who says he does not know, knows.
Love is all we need.
Blessings and Peace to all,
All in all,
B
2007-10-11 10:33:50
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answered by An Nony Mous 4
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I'm not a Muslim and I wasn't offended and your typos are forgiven.
Now to your question, what a valid and serious question, shame the answer isn't that simple to answer unless you belong to one of the religions you mentioned in which case its a simple case of Jesus said so or Allah said he wasn't.
I think the first problem is that the original text of the Bible isn't available in any shape or form only the many different translations. This means that the True words of God and Jesus have been lost to time.
The New Testament was written by the Apostle John about 70 to 95 years after the death of Jesus, so the question does arise how old was John when he wrote his Gospel. Jesus spoke Aramaic and we should be seeing what he spoke in its original context not what it is according to King James version of the bible.
So the question of Jesus being the Messiah, which comes from the original Aramaic of משיחא, Məšîḥā. So what does Məšîḥā mean? It actually means “the Anointed One” and doesn’t mean that it has anything to do with being the Son of God. It wasn’t until 1 AD that the Christian movement started to call Jesus the Messiah and even then they called him Khristos which is the Greek for Messiah. Soon Khristos was synonymous with messiah. It was this that was interpreted as the Son of God.
So was Jesus the Son of God? If your Christian then yes, if your not Christian then the answer is no. Either way it really doesn’t matter
To Muslims I say read the Quran and start to follow the teaching of Surah Al Kafirun which clearly says:
“O ye that reject Faith!
I worship not that which ye worship,
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
To you be your Way, and to me mine.”
Let the non-Muslims live the way that they wish, and if you want non-Muslims to convert to Islam then show them why they should through your examples, after all isn’t this how Islam was spread?
As for non-Muslims why do we seem to question their beliefs based on the actions of the few? That would be like them accusing all Christians of being suicidal pyromaniacs after the Waco incident. Or all Jews being called silent killers because of the action of the Mossads.
Can’t we all just go about with our own beliefs and let others go about theirs as most religions say in their teachings. Until politics gets hold of a religion it is by nature very good, once man and his views get involved things get ugly. Doesn’t this point to the fact that humanity is the cause of all this mistrust?
Thank you for your question, sorry my answer was so long.
2007-10-11 10:02:16
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answered by Dragon Prince 5
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If you want to study religions you should expect it to contradict another.
All religions offer a handed down text which has been adjusted by those with power and the motive to attract more followers, thus more power.
No one knows what Jesus actually said, its just how its portrayed. Christians believe he was the son of god, your religion does not. You don't have to believe that but should be prepared to expect some people in this world to do so and for non Mulsims to read your question.
2007-10-11 08:50:46
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus could not say He wasn't the Son of God...that would be a lie. Jesus is the sinless, perfect Living Word of God. Christians do understand Jesus' message. It was Muhammad that misunderstood. We do follow his teachings. That is why we do not stone people to death. That is why we love everyone. That is why we preach The Gospel. That is why we do not practice polygamy. That is why we do not follow false prophets or believe in any other word that came after the Bible. Nothing can be added to or removed from the Word.
I am not offended by your question. I love it actually. It just proves that Jesus is Our Lord. Your quran says the Bible is from God, to follow the prophets. Every prophet led up to Jesus! He fulfilled the prophesies and will judge the Living and the Dead! Think about it. If Muhammad had to come and fix things, why wouldn't he come again? Jesus will and as Lord of Lords and King of Kings! Jesus' sacrifice is available for anyone who chooses to believe. I hope you choose wisely.
God Bless.
2007-10-11 08:47:39
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answered by Anonymous
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I am not a Muslim but seeing that all the other questions here are so absolutely boring now that the "righteous" have kicked out all the fun people.... I want to take a shot at the answer:
There is very thin proof of Jesus' existence but he is mentioned by historian of the time...Josefus (or something like that) who lived all the way in Greece. I read a translation of this historians tales when I was in college.
Regardless of whether he existed or not, was the son of God or not (which if you understand physical science a bit may help you understand that this part is not supernatural at all), the fact is that for two thousand+ years we have been sending all our troubles to this entity. Whether he existed or not.... our loads have been lighten. There is much good to be said about that and the message is simple - be with others the way you want others to be with you. Why? Because karma is real and doesn't believe in religion.
2007-10-11 08:44:41
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answered by Estrella E 4
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I think Muslims would claim that he did say that.
All the holy books of all the religions were written down by people who were not those at the alleged events, after the events were alleged to have happened, and have been somewhat edited since then.
The Qur'an is probably the least changed, but then it is the youngest.
All of them were written down by people who had an agenda to make them sound as good as possible.
The Jewish Torah says nothing of Jesus. Not surprisingly the Jews decided he was a false prophet and so did not add anything to their holy texts.
The people who believe he was the messiah wrote their texts to reflect that belief, and became the current Christians.
The people who thought he was a prophet, along with Muhammad, wrote him into their texts to reflect their belief.
Considering that there is no corroborating evidence that someone called Jesus was ever a major figure in Judea (Josephus has the only text to refer to Jesus and that it generally recognised as been faked.) the authority of any reference in a holy text, written by men with a definite agenda, is questionable at best.
2007-10-11 09:09:16
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answered by Simon T 7
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As a Catholic; I find your question very intriguing. I have asked a similar question while attending a Catholic University. My question was frowned upon. I was told the Apostles changed Christ's teachings, many years after his death.
I am curious to know what is the Muslim counterpart or teachings of a messenger. I DO NOT mean to offend (due to lack of knowledge on my part pertaining to the Muslim faith) Maybe we could make some sense of this concept which we both share. Let us utilize knowledge brought forth from both religions, in order to form a simple conclusion.
2007-10-11 08:55:15
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answered by wlknwtr 2
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I'm not Muslim, but I clicked the wrong question so I'll answer anyways. According to my devout Christian friend, Jesus did not try to start Christianity. Jesus was a Jew who thought that his religion was right, but not complete and sought to better the Jewish faith. He never meant for others to worship him, and tired only to spread God's message.
Personally, I do not believe in any god or goddess, and although historical evidence supports that the man we know now as Jesus once lived, I do not believe that he was anything more than a mortal, though radical man.
And you should not worry about offending people, because every single person's beliefs offend some million other peoples' beliefs in the world.
2007-10-11 08:50:47
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answered by cecilia_c 3
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this is only my thinking that when jesus was in the world then christians were not thought that he is the son of God , but after his disparture from the world the some extrimist in christianity have started that juses was the son of the God ,as they change their holy book. Why i think like that because when juses was in this world there were some peoples/his companions who obey all his orders in true manner and thought that he is the prophet of God
2007-10-11 08:48:54
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answered by Good Man 1
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Whoooooooooo-hoooooo!!! Just listen to you all! No wonder the world is in such a mess. Makes me glad I listen to the God in my heart and not the God man preaches about.
And excuse the heck out of me, __S__W__, but are you trying to tell us muslims don't have cancer? Come on....I gotta hear this..... But please don't think I'm picking just on muslims----I just haven't heard that one before.
...................Now I'm back to edit my post a bit. Sorry for being so flip earlier, but you guys are FRUSTRATING!!!!
Cartman, forget the rest of us and listen to Dragon Prince and Bryant (who posted after me). These are wise men.
I still wanna know about the muslim/cancer thing, though. :)
2007-10-11 09:42:34
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answered by Anonymous
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