I see many Christians state "nothing comes into existence unless it is created"?

Question

Serious question here. If you truly believe that what "created" god?
An absolute statement requires an absolute answer. If god exists by your statement he must have been created by something, god creating himself will not work since he would have already been in existence to accomplish that.

Answer 1

And now you shall be pelted with the Christians' fallacious reasoning.

Answer 2

Okay,
Then let's answer the question as to when did infinity begin? If indeed there is an infinity, that implies it had no beginning and will have no end. Neither in time nor space, nor dimension, nor anything else that may be out there. No beginning-No end. Infinity.

So then let us answer what is infinity? Is it a thing? Or is it just like Blah, meaning that it has no meaning, it just is? Maybe it had been a Blah, but it became a TaDa, meaning something fabulous! (Are YOU a Blah, or a TaDa? I don't know about you, but I think I''m a Ta Da. :-) )(Just kidding. :-))

Could a TV have come to be without a creator? Could a car, or a computer? Or how about even a bowl or a spoon? Yet how much infinitely more complex is even a blade of grass? A tree? Us? All of creation? Wow! It fills me with awe just thinking about it!!

Depak Chopra wrote in his book, Ageless Body Timeless Mind, that ignorance has no beginning, and wisdom has no end. There's an infinity for you! Isn't that a beautiful statement? We are most definitely headed for good things!! Even though when you put both ignorance and wisdom in a petri dish like this earth and stir them up, it can be very hard to decipher which is which sometimes!

That is why He, Mr. Infinity Himself, God, gave us the Bible. The Bible's very first statement says,"In the beginning God created the heaven's and the earth." That means He had to be here before the heavens and earth, which makes a pretty good case for Him being infinite.

He gave us the Bible, which has stood the test of time for over 2000 years. That in itself is a miracle! Much more than that even, is the fact that it is so chalk full of wisdom a person can spend their whole life studying it, and still come away with the awe of its brilliance and newness.

I know the Bible can be a hard one to tackle, so if you may like to read a book that brings the story of Jesus to life in chronology, I highly recommend a book called The Desire of Ages by E G White. Get the long version of it if you are serious about this. It is truly inspired.

Do you feel pelted with reasoning? :-)

Answer 3

There are a Lot of Unknowns, and just because we don't know the answer does not mean that there is,nt.
Perhaps the idea that a God has always existed is beyond our Puny Minds.But thats what we Told.There has to be somethings that are too vast for even us to Comprehend.

Answer 4

"Never did I not exist ,nor you ,nor all these Kings and never shall we cease to exist"

Sri Krsna, Bhagavad-Gita Chp. 2 vs. 12

Both God (one word for it) and the Soul are unborn. The true "self" is eternal as it is a part and parcel of the whole. Just as you can take a teaspoon of water from the ocean and walk 50 miles into the desert with it, the teaspoons contents none-the-less are comprised completely of ocean. And when it is returned to the ocean it will enter into it and be lost among the whole of the ocean.

This is Nirvana, the melting away of all things that are not-self (annitta). Then what is actual is all that is left. And what remains is the primordial whole, unborn, uncreated and unending.

Answer 5

That is the mere faulty logic of *some* Christians. The better argument that I heard is that every effect has a cause. God is presumably the uncaused cause, existing eternally outside of time and space.

Then again, I'm not a Christian, so I can't actually speak for them.

Answer 6

Jehovah is self existant and the creator of everything. As the created we only see what is in our perameters or limitations...we have boundries. Substance is created by a spiritual force that has existed for eternity. The physical is finite...God is metaphysically undefinable to our cognitive abilities except and in where He has declared Himself, which remains consistantely the same through out the Bible. He never explains Himself beyond "I AM". There is not time pertaining to Him, no form or shape unless He chooses, no limit or boundry or perameter...These were created for us to exist inside His laws that He established. What is in our realm cannot spontaniously have occured..it was brought forth by His will. Now think of all the masses of innumerable quanties of matter in their smallest particle the atom and realize..this Creator has complete control of all that...not just to make it...but to manipulate it...then there is the masses of intangible substance such as thought, emotion, sound, light, space, color and etc. It all combines and folds in together to work toward one ultimate purpose...to be our environs. The earth is here for us...love in Christ, ~J~ .

Answer 7

They've only seen things happen between the span of the 40 years or so that they've been alive. Anything that isn't 'built' takes considerably longer than 40 years, or a human lifetime, to come about.

Answer 8

God is not a physical being and lives beyond the limits of time and space without begining, without end, unlike the universe!

God communicates to us on our level, so we can even
understand a smidgen of what he means - like parents talk to children - much more of a gap than that of course.

Answer 9

We understand what we see,hear,smell, taste etc. Brain can only process that information.But I believe there is more than our senses can perceive (for example what if we had infra red vision ,or could hear like dogs can).
God is beyond reasoning and knowledge .To me it is just an experience ,Like how I experience beauty,love etc.
So just experience and those who do ,do not talk .

Answer 10

If theists didn't insist on giving "God" human qualities like verbal communication, anger, sadness, a judgmental nature, vengeance, jealousy, etc., I would say "God always existed." But the god they invented is basically a human being with supernatural powers, and by its nature it could not be an eternal entity.

Answer 11

Look at the statement carefully:

Nothing COMES int existence without being created by God. God did not COME into existence. He Existed Eternally (without non-existence before He existed). He is not attributed with the attributes of creations because their attributes indicated their need to be created - such as a certain size, shape, time of existence and place of existence.